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zeroonetwothree · 2 years ago
If you participate in a public event you can’t really expect to keep that activity secret. (One could also argue that the fact you want to indicates you feel there is something wrong about your actions)

I wouldn’t really say this is doxing, since that usually refers to revealing a private online identity.

nyc_data_geek · 2 years ago
This is an inane argument. If one were to, for example, attend a public protest of Scientology, one might rightly fear for one's safety and be entirely convinced that one is in the right, regardless.

Might, or fear thereof, does not make right.

droopybuns · 2 years ago
Not a compelling argument.

These people are putting their bodies on the line. It is a public protest. I cannot infer anything other than that they’re willing to risk everything, including their privacy to defend their ideas.

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phmqk76 · 2 years ago
I, for one, would like to know who shows up to rallies where they chant “Burn Tel Aviv to the ground!”
sophacles · 2 years ago
Per the article: people who were not involved in any of the protesting and who hadn't made any statements were falsely named as anti-semites. I'd say thats doxxing - what do you call it?
ASalazarMX · 2 years ago
This is the key reason: doxxing here has the glaringly obvious purpose of harassing the protesters. Nevertheless, while vile and immoral, and double so when it's likely a propaganda operation, it's a risk protesters should be willing to take, along with unlawful use of force. It has been this way historically.
wakawaka28 · 2 years ago
If someone calls you an antisemite with no evidence, that's slander, not doxxing.

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esalman · 2 years ago
Tell me you didn't read the article without telling me you didn't read the article.
ungreased0675 · 2 years ago
The effect of this is going to be employers quietly blackballing all graduates of universities that get into the news for these protests.

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mjfl · 2 years ago
I haven't seen a shred of evidence that these protestors are violent, or that they harass members of campuses, as they are said to do. The unbelievably harsh response from the universities and the state, which included forced dispersion by the police, roof snipers at Indiana University, and threats to call in the national guard by the Speaker of the House Mike Johnson at Columbia, has led me to feel incredibly depressed. I feel that we are reaching a schism in the history of the United States, where liberalism is dying and being replaced by... something else.
racional · 2 years ago
I haven't seen a shred of evidence that these protestors are violent, or that they harass members of campuses, as they are said to do.

Then you need start reading from more diverse sources.

Just in the past week, for example - there's Khymani James, still currently front and center within the protest movement at Columbia, who was recorded earlier in the year saying "Zionists don't deserve to live" and "You shouldn't be surprised to see me murdering Zionists":

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/26/nyregion/columbia-student...

And the assault on Israeli activist Yoseph Haddad by an identified member of the local activist community:

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-797910

In general the right wing vastly overexaggerates the violent aspects of the protest movement. But beyond question it has its share of assholes.

mjfl · 2 years ago
and some (all?) of these assholes are agent provocateurs, just like in the 60s, which a previous poster alluded to.
compsciphd · 2 years ago
Alex, can I take "comments that didn't age well" for 200?

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zeroonetwothree · 2 years ago
Are you familiar with the 1960s? Somehow we survived that without “liberalism dying”.
nyc_data_geek · 2 years ago
This is a false equivalence. Student protesters were far more radical in their actions before force was invoked at that time.
mjfl · 2 years ago
that's a pretty terrible example considering the COINTELPRO program with the FBI sending letters to MLK trying to get him to kill himself and assassinating people.

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throwing_away · 2 years ago
> The student, who did not wish to be identified for fairly obvious reasons, said her name was listed on the truck because a club she was no longer a part of had signed onto an open letter urging Columbia to cut ties with Israel.

So she signed an open letter, but didn't want her name to be attached to it?

Isn't that the whole point of an open letter?

And then she has the opportunity to speak with the press, and asks not to be identified while saying she no longer wants to be associated with the letter?

I don't know what's going on with these kids.

sophacles · 2 years ago
It's really not that hard to understand:

She once was a member of an organization.

She left that organization.

After she left that organization, the members (no longer including her) signed a letter.

She didn't sign it, since she was no longer a member.

So how is it OK that she was named as a signatory?

I don't know what's going on with people who use the term "these kids".

tazu · 2 years ago
> I don't know what's going on with these kids.

I recommend reading Ted Kaczynski's writing on oversocialization [1].

[1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unab...

Pufferbo · 2 years ago
The way I read that was, the club had signed the letter, not her directly.
throwing_away · 2 years ago
Oh, I read it as the club all signed the letter, and now she's not part of it anymore.

Maybe I misread, but if you actually look at the letter, it's a Google form where individuals are encouraged to sign: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RcXX5DEO3yfJ9R4ksURnzpIP...

timeon · 2 years ago
> I don't know what's going on with these kids.

If you do not know, maybe you should learn first before making assumptions.

You have probably missed in the article:

> ...said her name was listed on the truck because a club she was no longer a part of had signed onto an open letter...

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Simulacra · 2 years ago
If you are in public you have no right to privacy, especially if you break laws and misbehave. This has been exhaustively debated, The Verge should know better.