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AtlasBarfed · 2 years ago
I heard an excellent quip on the Dan Le Betard radio show (which is in Miami for context) with a bunch of 20 something contributors, which kind of went like this?

"Hey, Sara, did you know this was the hottest summer recorded?"

"You mean the summer that in 20 years we look back on as being a nice comfortable summer?"

Which brings home the reality: the global temperature is going to keep going up, no matter what. The train is moving faster and faster, and it is a biiiig train

bgun · 2 years ago
It’s not the hottest summer of your life, it’s the coolest summer for the rest of your life!
AtlasBarfed · 2 years ago
... why is this flagged? This is the exact quote I was looking for.
circlefavshape · 2 years ago
Ireland had the wettest summer since records began :(
dzonga · 2 years ago
what makes me mad - is the seasons are now so screwed up and unpredictable. that life is barely enjoyable anymore.

what also sucks is the effect on 3rd world countries - which due to lack of industrialization are low polluters.

but the biggest thing that makes me -- mad are the climate change deniers.

0xb0565e487 · 2 years ago
Why does that make your life barely enjoyable? Curious to know what kind of lifestyle or living you have that the weather would have such a big impact on you.
sh4rks · 2 years ago
Being in nature and sunlight is arguably one of the few truly enjoyable activities on this planet
gmerc · 2 years ago
At current temperatures outdoor exercise in Singapore even after dark is waaay less enjoyable than even a few years ago. It will be unenjoyable soon.
not_a_shill · 2 years ago
>but the biggest thing that makes me -- mad are the climate change deniers.

Don't say things like "life is barely enjoyable anymore" if you have any aspirations of changing their minds. (and you should if you care about the environment)

It's primarily an in/outgroup deal and what they perceive as melodrama just makes the divide worse. These people usually hunt/fish/enjoy the outdoors too. You can connect with that.

saikia81 · 2 years ago
cool heads prevail. The division is a political ploy. I understand you anger as I feel it too. Don't let the hate poison the conversation. Sadly we need patience for unity, and unity to solve this long run.
mdekkers · 2 years ago
> solve this long run.

What “long run”

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archerx · 2 years ago
Third world countries are the biggest polluters from ruining their rivers and in emissions.[1][2]

but the biggest thing that makes me made is people posting misinformation on the internet while acting righteous about it.

[1] https://www.cgdev.org/media/developing-countries-are-respons... [2] https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/most-polluted-rivers-...

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jokethrowaway · 2 years ago
Way colder than average in Europe, except for Spain which hit 40+

Sea temperature has also been pretty low for this time of the year

lm28469 · 2 years ago
archerx · 2 years ago
I live in Europe and it has been a colder than normal summer. Two/three weeks ago kind of felt like autumn already and we got pelted with hail at the end of July. Have I just been feeling the weather wrong or something?
anigbrowl · 2 years ago
July has been pretty mild in California, while the rest of the US baked in misery. Geography interacts with the weather and interacts localities in different ways. The cooler temperatures and higher levels of rainfall (eg in Ireland) are also attributable to climate change, when you take things like mountain ranges and the gulf stream into account.
gmerc · 2 years ago
I guess france, greece and Germany don’t count.

And we complain about LLMs hallucinating.

macinjosh · 2 years ago
The Media: When it’s really cold , weather is not climate. When it is really hot it is definitely climate change.
anigbrowl · 2 years ago
False. When Texas was hit with an unusually cold weather event a couple years ago, causing the power grid to fail, plenty of reports highlighted this as an example of climate change. Don't be obtuse, it sticks out like a sore thumb and doesn't persuade anyone.
secretsatan · 2 years ago
That's very not true
archerx · 2 years ago
We had a cold summer in Switzerland, I am disappointed because I was promised some heat! I got hail, rain and cold summer days instead.
morsch · 2 years ago
July wasn't record setting in Switzerland, but still 1-2C hotter than the long term average 1990-2020. So no, not cold.

https://www.meteoschweiz.admin.ch/ueber-uns/meteoschweiz-blo...

secretsatan · 2 years ago
I'm happy it's been cooler this year, summers have been getting too warm, my flat does not keep cool well. I always liked the summer storms here though, especially if you have a good vantage point to watch them roll in.
tetris11 · 2 years ago
I've lived in roof apartments all my life (my bedroom in my parents house was a loft conversion), but for the first time moved into an apartment on the second floor.

The difference is night and day. No longer do I sweat in summer, freeze in winter, and stay up all night listening to the rain (albeit I do sometimes miss the soothing quality it had). I think roof apartments are going to get a lot less popular in the next decade

yourusername · 2 years ago
I think most of Europe above (and in) the alps was cool and wet this summer.
dagw · 2 years ago
Except the northern parts of Sweden (and Norway?) which had a really nice summer.
odiroot · 2 years ago
Same here in South England.
shawabawa3 · 2 years ago
July and August haven't been great, but June was the hottest June on record
archerx · 2 years ago
People are downvoting me for pointing out facts that I have observed that are contradicting the NPR narrative? I thought hacker news was better than this. Very disappointing.
lm28469 · 2 years ago
You gave an anecdote about how you personally felt as if it was a valid counter point for scientifically measured continent wide record breaking temps

Of cours HN will trash you... what did you expect

secretsatan · 2 years ago
Well, the article is about Europe, and Switzerland is one of the smaller countries in Europe, to say you're contradicting the narrative is a bit of a stretch.
cjalmeida · 2 years ago
Yeah, we're better than weighting in anecdotal data when there's plenty of high quality measurements from multiple sources readily available.

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throw2020201 · 2 years ago
You had hopes for HN? This place shouldn't be taken seriously. Both the upvoting/downvoting system and the majority of users are dumb.
joemazerino · 2 years ago
Considering the top comment is also an anecdote about 3rd world polluters being the least guilty or "being mad at climate change deniers" are you really surprised?