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magikaram · 3 years ago
In case anyone doesn't know, there is only one company that this law would apply to - Disney. No other copyright would be shorted. It is the only company with the classification and market cap that is stated in the bill.

I think the copyright law does need to be revised. But making it apply to only Disney, as Hawley is intending, doesn't fix the system. Just makes another problem to sort when it will need to be fixed.

nybble41 · 3 years ago
My reading is that the new 28-year copyright term with one 28-year renewal option with registration would apply to everyone going forward. Only the "retroactive effect" is narrowly constructed to apply only to Disney. This seems a lot like an unconstitutional bill of attainder; it may not actually use the name "Disney" but the effect is the same. Laws should not single out individuals or groups for special treatment, good or bad.

The proper solution here would be to limit all copyrights to 28 years from the date the law is passed or initial publication, whichever is later, though IMHO 28-56 years is rather long. The original copyright term in the US was half that, 14-28 years, and it could stand to be even shorter. But it is at least a step in the right direction.

codefreeordie · 3 years ago
This will never pass.

That said, it is a weird bill. It basically returns copyright to the fixed terms of about a century ago for new works.

That part is reasonably straightforward.

But then the weird parts: existing copyright is also shortened -- but only for copyright held by large corporations in specifically named industries.

But then, just to make life more confusing still, any existing work that would have it's copyright shortened to May 1, 2032 or sooner has an extra change: anybody who bought a license to such a work loses half the length of the license.

I'm not a constitutional scholar, but this seems moderately dubious to me, but it might be constitutionally viable maybe.

The whole thing is super weird.

But, it isn't going to pass, so it doesn't really matter.

Thorrez · 3 years ago
>But then, just to make life more confusing still, any existing work that would have it's copyright shortened to May 1, 2032 or sooner has an extra change: anybody who bought a license to such a work loses half the length of the license.

I think it's kind of the other way around. If the the law would cause copyright to expire while their license is still active, the copyright is extended for a bit, so that the person holding the license gets to keep the value of that license for a bit longer.

Thorrez · 3 years ago
If anyone wonders what the industries are, they're Motion Picture and Video Industries (5121) and Arts, Entertainment, and Recreation (71).

https://www.census.gov/naics/

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UncleEntity · 3 years ago
> I'm not a constitutional scholar, but this seems moderately dubious to me, but it might be constitutionally viable maybe.

It is one of the powers specifically granted to congress so this isn’t one of their “commerce clause gives us power over everything” shenanigans.

nybble41 · 3 years ago
The dubious part isn't the 28+28 year copyright term for new works, but rather the part where they penalize a single organization (not named, but the criteria only includes Disney) by shortening only its copyright terms for existing works when everything else is grandfathered in. This is, arguably, a bill of attainder—punishment by legislative fiat without judicial process—which the Constitution specifically prohibits.
hyperman1 · 3 years ago
Maybe that's the point. It becomes law then promotly getscthrown out again. So nothing changes but the politician claims he tried to do something.
codefreeordie · 3 years ago
Nah, it doesn't matter whether this is constitutional or not, because it isn't actually intended to pass. It's just typical grandstanding. (I'm pretty sure that neither party actually wants to shorted copyright to 56 years)
smokey_circles · 3 years ago
> it will never pass

I'll take the Patriot Act for $200, Alex

grnmamba · 3 years ago
The Patriot act increased government power, so congress had an incentive to pass it.

This act does not.

datacruncher01 · 3 years ago
Clearly this is targeting Disney as a consequence on their non-support for HB 1557 in Florida.