I am kinda sad that the Brazillian part in that story is how they forced them to stay because of Yellow Fever, but then they stole stuff from inside the plane...
The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :(
As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage.
Well, don’t read too much into that. There are rude people everywhere.
From what I know, Brazil produces high-quality software developers/computer scientists (elixir and Lua come from Brazil).
Of course there are big social issues in Brazil but… aren’t there in all western countries? Poverty, unemployment, violence (maybe Brazil is an outlier in this case), etc.
From where I come from, ie russians have much worse reputation online in general than brazillians (this was pre-ukraine war). I wouldn't read too much into that
A lot of people dismissing your concerns as "bad eggs everywhere". I appreciate you speaking out against this.
Apologizing on behalf of others is a valid signal towards properly judging individual motives vs cultural influence. I do not want to be too quick to blame someone for acting distrustful if they grew up in a very distrustful environment / culture.
to be honest your post sounds a lot like some Egyptians I know who seem compelled to apologize for the endemic tourist scams, bribery/shakedowns/corruption, unethical taxi drivers, sexual harassment etc in Cairo.
As others said, the fact is that scumbags exist everywhere, and Brazil is certainly not exempted from this. Another fact is that Brazil is obscenely huge. The country is almost the size of Europe, and the number of online Brazilians nowadays is probably larger than some European countries' entire population. So, given that the ratio of scumbags is probably and roughly the same for every country in the world, the chance of anyone running into a scumbag Brazilian online is naturally larger than average, which tricks our biased brains into believing that "whoa, Brazil must be filled with scumbags".
And of course, the notoriously pervasive "stray dog syndrome", a sentiment that every Brazilian thing is inferior than its imported counterpart (including manufactured goods, culture and whatnot), and which is hammered into the unconscious mind of 11 out of 10 Brazilians from a very young age (myself included), only helps strength this confirmation bias.
> As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage.
Nem todos pensam assim. Sou gringo, moro no rio e acho que o brasileiro é gente boa! TMJ
> The scene that greeted the four as they disembarked at the dock was one of pure chaos. Darwin was in the midst of an invasion scare. Worse, the arrival of the first freighter full of beer in months had resulted in a temporary breakdown of military order.
Am I the only one wondering why this hasn't been made into a movie? Nostalgia for that time period and a compelling tale. Just needs a love interest plot line and I think it'd do pretty well.
I didn't say anything about a historical movie. Sure if a historical documentary is more your thing, perhaps wait for it on the History or Discovery channel. But I'm thinking more like an Indiana Jones/Pearl Harbor/Apollo 13 style movie.
I unexpectedly flew around the world once. Was supposed to do Canada-Germany-Dubai and then back again, but Lufthansa went on strike before my flight home so I ended up doing Canada-Germany-Dubai-China-Canada.
I've done San Francisco to Hong Kong to Bangalore, then back via Frankfurt to SFO, but that's not fully around the world, and neither was your route, because we didn't cross the equator or go 20,000 km (earth's circumference), just a Northern Hemisphere smaller circle. A route involving NYC and Aukland is the real thing, and considerably longer.
> I'm shocked that this story hasn't had significant discussion on HN.
It got quite a few votes before.
It's a great story and I'm glad I caught it today, I upvoted it but ... I don't really have anything to comment. I have no informed opinions to offer, related anecdotes to share, or related stories I can think of right now. It's just a great story. Comments aren't everything.
I'd actually tried a few variants of search, by URL, by the flight number (including in comments) which brings up a few interesting coincidental results, and various froms of "wrong way" without luck.
> I'm shocked that this story hasn't had significant discussion on HN.
This "medium" site is unreadable to me. After waiting for the page elements slowly materialize, the only text that appears is just the first sentence of an article.
Maybe other HN users with heavily adblocked browsers are equally unable to read this site?
Readit News
The saddest part of this, is that I am not even surprised :(
As Brazillian I deal all the time with online distrust with Brazillians, and often when people explain why they distrust us, I can't fault them, there are even online games where Brazillians have their own server separate from the rest of the planet just to "silo" Brazillians from other people, to prevent Brazillians from ruining their fun or causing damage.
From what I know, Brazil produces high-quality software developers/computer scientists (elixir and Lua come from Brazil).
Of course there are big social issues in Brazil but… aren’t there in all western countries? Poverty, unemployment, violence (maybe Brazil is an outlier in this case), etc.
Apologizing on behalf of others is a valid signal towards properly judging individual motives vs cultural influence. I do not want to be too quick to blame someone for acting distrustful if they grew up in a very distrustful environment / culture.
Is that bad?
And of course, the notoriously pervasive "stray dog syndrome", a sentiment that every Brazilian thing is inferior than its imported counterpart (including manufactured goods, culture and whatnot), and which is hammered into the unconscious mind of 11 out of 10 Brazilians from a very young age (myself included), only helps strength this confirmation bias.
Nem todos pensam assim. Sou gringo, moro no rio e acho que o brasileiro é gente boa! TMJ
> The scene that greeted the four as they disembarked at the dock was one of pure chaos. Darwin was in the midst of an invasion scare. Worse, the arrival of the first freighter full of beer in months had resulted in a temporary breakdown of military order.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00457XJ2K/
The author acknowledges this at the end of part three and recommends that you buy the book. I recommend it too.
If you are interested in the story of the China Clippers and other flying boats, I also recommend the mini docudrama series Across the Pacific:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0887SGVPX/
And the fun movie China Clipper:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FGI69ZG/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Clipper
it's over 40,000 km
Several earlier submissions, but no uptake. It is worth the read.
It got quite a few votes before.
It's a great story and I'm glad I caught it today, I upvoted it but ... I don't really have anything to comment. I have no informed opinions to offer, related anecdotes to share, or related stories I can think of right now. It's just a great story. Comments aren't everything.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15537891
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10804868
The first of those has 51 comments, the 2nd, 27.
I'd actually tried a few variants of search, by URL, by the flight number (including in comments) which brings up a few interesting coincidental results, and various froms of "wrong way" without luck.
Cunningham's Law strikes again!
This "medium" site is unreadable to me. After waiting for the page elements slowly materialize, the only text that appears is just the first sentence of an article.
Maybe other HN users with heavily adblocked browsers are equally unable to read this site?
https://scribe.rip is an alternative frontend to Medium.