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999900000999 · 4 years ago
I would like it to be illegal to sell hardware which forces an account for basic usage.

With Nvidia, you can give them 2k USD and still need to signup for a GeForce account to use your new card.

After struggling to find one for 12 months.

What if I'm in a locked down environment, or GASP don't have constant access to the internet.

Can you get around this with Ubuntu/Debian/Raspbian . It's not unreasonable to have a PI just for print jobs.

atatatat · 4 years ago
Wait, really?
999900000999 · 4 years ago
Yes, unfortunately.

While there might be some way around it, every year Nvida gets more and more hostile towards users, you generally need to sign up for GeForce account to use their desktop client in order to install drivers.

I really do like the desktop client, I think every manufacturer should have a nice GUI to simplify installing drivers, there's no reason I need to sign up to use it. They're obviously seeking to start selling services, and the idea is once you become a part of the Nvidia family you'll want to give them more money. Why I'm I still the product once I purchased a product ?

yuppie_scum · 4 years ago
Do yourself a favor and spring for a Brother.
mikecoles · 4 years ago
I picked up a Brother after the "printer tracking dots" was brought to light. Another issue was when I had to scan in a copy of my birth certificate; The device wouldn't scan it in because of the 'constellation'.

https://www.eff.org/issues/printershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation

jimmaswell · 4 years ago
I've had a good experience with Lexmark so far too.
miles · 4 years ago
XenonOfArcticus linked[1] to another comment[2] from last year that may offer a workaround, though HP's own documentation[3] reflects the notion that an HP Smart account is required to print.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/pwrgb1/buyer_bewa...

[2] https://www.reddit.com/r/printers/comments/j8l7v5/cannot_use...

[3] https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-laserjet-mfp-m232e-m...

poulpy123 · 4 years ago
I bought a laser B&W printer for the price of an entry level ink printer and a ink replacement, and I couldn't be more happy. It's a bit big but it's fast, the ink last forever and never dry
yingliu4203 · 4 years ago
I have used HP printers for many years. The software is consistently the worst you can image: it has huge size for so many years and is complex to use.

Last week I struggled awhile to not create an account to scan a document. Eventually I gave up and create an account.

rastafang · 4 years ago
Printers are getting less and less relevant, how can they get away with this? I'm really happy with my cheap HP LaserJet M15 B&W printer though...
morsch · 4 years ago
Apparently there's a M209dwe, which forces you to subscribe to HP's toner subscription model (yeah, that's a thing now), and a M209dw, which doesn't. He got the former; it's quite a bit cheaper. On Amazon, you can tell it's a crippled product from the description, but I can see how you could easily miss it.

So, avoid the ones with an e suffix. Or better yet, just avoid HP.

2Gkashmiri · 4 years ago
Been using HP 5820 wireless printer for around 3 years IMO. Never signed in to anything. Yesterday I found out it tracks number of scans and prints.

Going to try hard to prevent it from updating software or firmware although a config page said automatic firmware update is on. Don't know