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xvilka · 5 years ago
This link overly politised and does not offer technical details about these problems. The Moscow Times article [1] makes a better job.

[1] https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/20/leaked-sputnik-v-r...

Kinrany · 5 years ago
Is there something even better? This article wastes a lot of text repeating over and over that there are problems without getting to the most important ones.
forgotpwd16 · 5 years ago
The submitted link considers the Moscow Times article and copies verbatim (in the leaked report section) the quotes regarding randomization and side effects.
chriszhang · 5 years ago
Moscow Times article does not load on my phone. It appears to reload itself again and again. Then it error out. Anyone facing same issue?
ChrisMarshallNY · 5 years ago
The language the article uses, is a bit inflammatory. It may well be correct, but the tone gives me pause.

Sounds like the author has an axe to grind.

outworlder · 5 years ago
For what's worth, Brazilian regulators also had a bunch of issues with data provided for Sputnik. Issues were also raised when facilities were inspected.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/26/world/covid-vaccine-brazi...

dangom · 5 years ago
Same feeling here. Curiously enough the domain is called "For better science", where we'd have expected neutrality and impartiality to be the guiding principles of any report.

Apart from that, it is hard to believe that any of the vaccine reports and clinical trials are unbiased. Unfortunately there are too many conflicts of interest and money on the table for any information to be taken at face value. The beauty of science is that now that the vaccines are out there it becomes easier to independently access them and move our knowledge further in the right direction. And on that note, regardless of the final outcome for Sputnik V, at least there will be lessons learned for the future development of vaccines and increased scrutiny in their manufacturing process.

mattkrause · 5 years ago
For what it's worth, the blog has a pretty similar tone even when writing about less politically-fraught topics; it's usually focused on fraud in the life science literature.
sk2020 · 5 years ago
> at least there will be lessons learned for the future development of vaccines and increased scrutiny in their manufacturing process.

I’m nagging, but we’ve gone to extraordinary lengths to set a precedent where pharmaceutical companies are relieved of the burden of demonstrating the safety of their products and also relieved of the risk of providing relief to anyone harmed by said products.

20 years later, emergency measures to protect Americans from terrorism are in effect today. I doubt Pfizer will be vulnerable to class-action suits ever again.

higherup · 5 years ago
>The beauty of science is that now that the vaccines are out there it becomes easier to independently access them and move our knowledge further in the right direction.

Can you clarify what you mean by this?

nomrom · 5 years ago
The vaccine was being "touted" by Bolsonaro? He publicly disparaged it several times.
ShrigmaMale · 5 years ago
Indeed, Bolsonaro doesn't like non-Western shots. For instance, his supporters are calling Chinese offerings vachinas.
Finnucane · 5 years ago
He obviously does, but the things he says about Putin are basically true.
hamburgerwah · 5 years ago
I think that what is sort of a sideline in this article is really a more important story. The Lancet and NEJM have completely debased themselves and destroyed centuries of institutional credibility in their handling of covid related research. I don't know where it goes from here but they have both burned themselves to the ground.
nayuki · 5 years ago
And the letter dismissing the lab leak theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet#February_2020_lette...
yyyk · 5 years ago
The Lancet does this all the time. To add a few more examples to the sibling comments: The fraudulent HCQ paper*, the absurd Iraq war casualty calculation.

In general, assume that whenever there's politics or the opportunity to shock, the Lancet won't be very thorough with its articles.

* The conclusion being accidentally right doesn't cover for the fraudulent data.

harringtonjones · 5 years ago
I thought that happened to the Lancet after the original vaccines -> autism paper...
erentz · 5 years ago
And the PACE trial
fithisux · 5 years ago
The article in reality reads, Russian certificates are not accepted by us. Cold War II escalates. No science involved here.

Read the article about Apache Arrow / DataFusion 5.0 it is better.

rich_sasha · 5 years ago
The article shows evidence of sloppiness, not really of fraud. Neither would really surprise me, given the high political stakes. But I suspect that if Russia went for full-on fraud, they would do a much better job than this.

Case in point: the doping scandal at the Sochi winter olympics. It was evil, yes, but you cannot help but admire how detailed and well-executed the operation was. They designed and built a whole building around the scheme! Supposedly, even the FSB (reincarnation of KGB) was involved. If not for a senior whistle-blower, I think we would never know.

I'm sure that if there was some top-level prikaz to cook the books, there would be no discernible flaws in the data whatsoever.

moltar · 5 years ago
> deliberately shoddy way of manufacturing things

The last article about Sputnik that I read on HN stated that many countries are awaiting their promised doses, because Korea and India cannot produce enough of it.

speransky · 5 years ago
As the tone of article is bit aggressive, I have own observations, my relatives who lives in Russia were fully vaccinated with Sputnik and all 4 of them (one family) got a very hard COVID with delta, two of them were on oxygen therapy. Doesn’t mean anything but my feelings are that there are some lie about that vaccine efficiency for no reason except political benefits.
sharken · 5 years ago
For a country like Venezuela they would probably still have liked to even receive the vaccine, but have received very few doses so far.

https://www.laprensalatina.com/venezuelas-vaccine-drive-sput...