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nerdponx · 5 years ago
Warning for anyone browsing: The article is very interesting, but there's no "image", just diagrams. It's not clear if there even is an "image" as such, or if it was some kind of more general experimental confirmation. Maybe there's an image is in the source paper, but I don't have institutional access and the paper by itself is 200 USD.
RupertEisenhart · 5 years ago
Imaging doesn't necessarily produce 'images' in the common meaning of the word.

You may think that those 'images' of proteins you see sometimes are 'real images', because they are grey and grainy, but they are just computer-generated diagrams.

I'm not really sure if this comment has any substance. What do you want/expect to see?

"have used a method called atomic-resolution electron tomography to determine the position of every atom in a nanometre-scale sample of a metallic glass" assuming the accompanying diagram is exactly that, it's as much of an image as you will ever get, of anything, afaic.

Edit: formatting

mdpopescu · 5 years ago
And yet, the number of otherwise informed, intelligent people I've talked to who believe that the frequently-used image of the Covid virus is an actual picture is astonishing.
neltnerb · 5 years ago
Thank you, I was trying for a while to find a way to phrase it. All images are reconstructed... if it was helpful I'm sure they could have added back the noise they removed.
tmfi · 5 years ago
I think this is the preprint article: https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.02266
baq · 5 years ago
looks like it. page 14 has a figure with a "representative experimental image, where some crystalline features are visible." the nature paper adds that the scale bar is 2nm.
blix · 5 years ago
'Imaged' is probably the wrong word to use based on its connotations outside the field. What this paper represents is a full 3D reconstruction of the atomic configuration of disordered solid, and so the result is really a point cloud not pixels or voxels.

This sort of atomic scale reconstruction is really hard to achieve outside of simulation, and some very cool things can be done with it. The 'Short-Range-Order' of disordered or semi-ordered structures is really difficult to probe, but may play a signficant role in properties.

chewmieser · 5 years ago
The journal subscription is $200 but the paper is $9 to rent or $32 to buy without it.

It does look like there's images in the source paper but I'm only going off the fuzzy preview: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03354-0.epdf?no_p...

retSava · 5 years ago
_rent_ interrobang

I guess that's a short-term subscription or something?

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denhaus · 5 years ago
You might consider the image shown to actually be more impressive than a regular 2D image since it is a tomography done in 3D. There is far more information in this simulated image than in say, an SEM image of graphene. Also, it’s hard to say what an “image” actually is at nanoscale.

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swiley · 5 years ago
Holy cow, the goddamn cookie acceptance nag fills all but one line of my browser window.
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Arnavion · 5 years ago
As with most websites with obnoxious cookie banners, the banner doesn't show if you don't have JS enabled on the website. The article even reads fine without it, including the pictures, something that can't be said of the new hipster blog-hosting sites that lazy-load images with JS instead of letting the UA do it.
jonplackett · 5 years ago
Why do almost all scientific articles - especially from nature and new scientist - not have images or videos to show the damn thing everyone is so excited about?
craftinator · 5 years ago
Can't afford Elsevier.

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