This needs a better source. Other sources are saying this just a measure being thought off. Meanwhile no official word on this matter. The thing is there is lot of fake news going around regards China.
Also they'd be more nuanced now. They will likely ask/force Nintendo to crackdown than doing it themselves..
There won't be any better source. China will never publish these measures as laws or regulations, not in clear text nor formally acknowledge such "ban"h exists. It's an obscure code of conduct to extort companies in private sectors for "bad behaviour".
And yes it will be arbitrary enforced, the "ban" will differ from time to time and varies between provinces.
Title and article is misleading, as usual, alas. Being a Chinese gamer/coder is hard, everywhere you turned there's no less of anti-china content shove down your throat, at the same time an authoritarian regime squeeze on the other end.
We get it, 1940s there's mass slaughter, 1980s crazy things happened when there's a nutjob in charge. It's a country with 5000 years of history and 1.4 billion people each with life stories living and thriving, and a govt having bag of problems just like everywhere else. But, to some people, like youtube/github/stackoverflow still not enough to tell me I'm less of a human being, my family my friends and our beloved dog are being 'slaughtered',
Sorry, I must nitpick. Egypt and Iraq has 5000 years of history. China has 3000. Your first written record came in 1250 BC, latter day Shang dynasty. On the other hand at the same date Eastern Mediterranean has five great historical civilizations already, though nearly all perished in a collapse. Assyria, Babylon, Egypt, Mycenaean Greece, and Anatolian Hittites.
>> One-player online games will also be subject to surveillance, as a new real-name mechanism is going to be implemented in China. Also, the new law will not allow for zombies and plagues, map editing, roleplaying, as well as organizing a union in games — regulations which are believed to be inspired by the sensitive content made by Joshua Wong.
Something will be the breaking point for this level of restriction/overreach in the name of surveillance.
It would be hilarious if it were zombies or map editing/mods.
It's amazing that Joshua Wang's actions have resulted in the game being made unavailable for an entire nation. Banning the entire game is also an incredible example of the streisand effect.
> Something will be the breaking point for this level of restriction/overreach in the name of surveillance.
Nothing will be the breaking point short of political revolution. The CCP has gladly murdered its' own citizens by the thousands before and they will gladly do so again to maintain power. That's how authoritarian regimes work. Combined with the fact that they are powerful enough geopolitically that no other nation will do anything about it, China is set on its' dystopian nightmare future.
> The CCP has gladly murdered its' own citizens by the thousands before and they will gladly do so again to maintain power
That may be happening now via the virus. China's case count is still around 80k, where it has been since the virus started taking off elsewhere.
Millions died in Mao's "Great Leap Forward" and then again later in his "Cultural Revolution". Not only did he lead the country through two periods of extreme death and famine, but also he is still an icon to many in China. Xi could very well do the same thing.
I think the implication of the grandparent is political revolution.
Personally I think it's a little unlikely at the moment because of China's surveillance state and generally rising standards of living in China over the last couple decades, but FWIW the Syrian Civil War was started over graffiti.
> Something will be the breaking point for this level of restriction/overreach in the name of surveillance.
If anything, I believe this will be used to create more anger towards the democracy movement in Hong Kong. Blaming these restrictions on them because they are endangering “national security”.
I remember when PUBG got “banned” in China, there wasn’t any real backlash against it. People are still playing it, although only against Chinese players.
> Something will be the breaking point for this level of restriction/overreach in the name of surveillance.
Ever since WWII, with Marxist scholars observing that Nazi states don't receive the unrest (to them: class struggle) that we'd otherwise expect it to have, they've strongly suspected that cultural hegemony goes a long way to preventing unrest.
This comes especially into relevance when you consider that the CCP is in a position of cultural hegemony with respect to its citizens to an extent that free societies simply aren't.
The more China is able to prevent its people from accessing actually trustable institutions, the stronger its citizens obedience to it.
You say Streisand effect, but this is very greatly weakened when the state controls the most powerful communication platforms, and have suppressed communication media that it doesn't control.
Banning chat between Chinese and non-Chinese on WeChat only seems like a couple small steps down the slope, so I wouldn't be so sure your concern was misplaced.
The Chinese firewall is looking less like a method of tyrannical control, and more like a ridiculous attempt at troll-shielding an easily manipulated populace.
The chinese themselves actually prefer playing on local servers due to the amount of shit talking they get while playing on global servers. Unending amount of Tiananmen copypasta and free Hong Kong slogan its sickening.
They lag hard and they seem to hack and use cheats at higher percentages than non Chinese. There are lots of movements to segregate Chinese players onto their own servers in games like DotA 2 and Cs:go. The CCP decided that the people who spam the copypasta about how bad the CCP is were actually making an impact.
China literally got trolled out of video games - but it's because they trolled the world first. Reap what you sow...
I don't doubt it. Like I said, troll-shielding. The more interesting consequences of that don't happen in game chats though. The censorship apologists come out in force in the wake of a competitive player being banned for publicly supporting the HK protesters was a good demonstration of that. They were clearly struggling to understand the value of free-speech, and the fact that those accustomed to it are unaffected by "You wanna hurt my national pride?! Well I'm glad 9/11 happened! See, free speech is bad!"
Huh. It says that /after/ banning animal crossing it’s taking it to the extreme to block users. Which I take to suggest they will be applying it to other games.
> One-player online games will also be subject to surveillance, as a new real-name mechanism is going to be implemented in China. Also, the new law will not allow for zombies and plagues, map editing, roleplaying, as well as organizing a union in games — regulations which are believed to be inspired by the sensitive content made by Joshua Wong.
I'll admit the article isn't exactly well written which makes me have trouble trusting it. But doesn't the above quote imply that they are in fact censoring other video games than Animal Crossing.
> I'm guessing because they can't effectively monitor information on the platform.
I not sure about this. Usually, they won't let a social platform operate without a self-censoring team, I guess they will force gaming platforms to
do the same.
The source is a politically-biased English-language Taiwanese tabloid known for spreading false information relating to the government of mainland China, especially regarding covid19. Doesn't pass the bullshit filter.
Readit News
Also they'd be more nuanced now. They will likely ask/force Nintendo to crackdown than doing it themselves..
There won't be any better source. China will never publish these measures as laws or regulations, not in clear text nor formally acknowledge such "ban"h exists. It's an obscure code of conduct to extort companies in private sectors for "bad behaviour".
And yes it will be arbitrary enforced, the "ban" will differ from time to time and varies between provinces.
We get it, 1940s there's mass slaughter, 1980s crazy things happened when there's a nutjob in charge. It's a country with 5000 years of history and 1.4 billion people each with life stories living and thriving, and a govt having bag of problems just like everywhere else. But, to some people, like youtube/github/stackoverflow still not enough to tell me I'm less of a human being, my family my friends and our beloved dog are being 'slaughtered',
serisouly Animal Crossing?
Something will be the breaking point for this level of restriction/overreach in the name of surveillance.
It would be hilarious if it were zombies or map editing/mods.
It's amazing that Joshua Wang's actions have resulted in the game being made unavailable for an entire nation. Banning the entire game is also an incredible example of the streisand effect.
Nothing will be the breaking point short of political revolution. The CCP has gladly murdered its' own citizens by the thousands before and they will gladly do so again to maintain power. That's how authoritarian regimes work. Combined with the fact that they are powerful enough geopolitically that no other nation will do anything about it, China is set on its' dystopian nightmare future.
That may be happening now via the virus. China's case count is still around 80k, where it has been since the virus started taking off elsewhere.
Millions died in Mao's "Great Leap Forward" and then again later in his "Cultural Revolution". Not only did he lead the country through two periods of extreme death and famine, but also he is still an icon to many in China. Xi could very well do the same thing.
Personally I think it's a little unlikely at the moment because of China's surveillance state and generally rising standards of living in China over the last couple decades, but FWIW the Syrian Civil War was started over graffiti.
If anything, I believe this will be used to create more anger towards the democracy movement in Hong Kong. Blaming these restrictions on them because they are endangering “national security”.
I remember when PUBG got “banned” in China, there wasn’t any real backlash against it. People are still playing it, although only against Chinese players.
Their policy must be to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it
Ever since WWII, with Marxist scholars observing that Nazi states don't receive the unrest (to them: class struggle) that we'd otherwise expect it to have, they've strongly suspected that cultural hegemony goes a long way to preventing unrest.
This comes especially into relevance when you consider that the CCP is in a position of cultural hegemony with respect to its citizens to an extent that free societies simply aren't.
The more China is able to prevent its people from accessing actually trustable institutions, the stronger its citizens obedience to it.
You say Streisand effect, but this is very greatly weakened when the state controls the most powerful communication platforms, and have suppressed communication media that it doesn't control.
China to ban online gaming with, chatting in-game with foreigners outside Great Firewall.
Right now the title is very misleading and I was concerned that even on WeChat I wouldn't be able to talk to my Chinese friends.
Very brave of you.
https://youtu.be/xN0vUlljX0I?t=120
Source: voicechats on csgo
They lag hard and they seem to hack and use cheats at higher percentages than non Chinese. There are lots of movements to segregate Chinese players onto their own servers in games like DotA 2 and Cs:go. The CCP decided that the people who spam the copypasta about how bad the CCP is were actually making an impact.
China literally got trolled out of video games - but it's because they trolled the world first. Reap what you sow...
Dodgy article title.
I'll admit the article isn't exactly well written which makes me have trouble trusting it. But doesn't the above quote imply that they are in fact censoring other video games than Animal Crossing.
I not sure about this. Usually, they won't let a social platform operate without a self-censoring team, I guess they will force gaming platforms to do the same.