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Posted by u/driftersince89 6 years ago
Trying to succeed as an entrepreneur for 10 years. Should I quit? Anyone else?
I wanted to become and entrepreneur my first business in my UG as a design studio was a huge success. Had many clients and made some money.

I built a product next only to become a failure. Later I tried launching one more company & 4-7 other software products which also failed or never saw the launch.

My friends who were leading a normal 9-5 day jobs are getting promoted to 6 figure salaries and Managements positions.

I am in my 30's. I do have a contract job as a designer now. But also trying to succeed as an entrepreneur on the side.

Feeling like I should just give up and try to catch up with the rest of the world.

When I try to see the future, I no longer see a successful entrepreneur. Instead a middle aged man with failures.

I am 30 now. I should choose the right path.

Anyone who went through the same and then either succeeded or gave up. I would like to know your views. Thanks a ton in advance.

mimixco · 6 years ago
I'm 50 and have experienced many failures, yet I still work for myself and have managed to secure funding for my latest project and even got invited to submit a grant proposal to the National Science Foundation.

Edison said, famously, "I can't tell you what works but I can tell you 1,000 things that don't work." Thirty is still quite young; you have lots of life and ideas in you left. If you were born with the entrepreneurial spirit, I say keep at it. You might need to pivot to a different project or even a different industry, but I wouldn't recommend giving in or giving up!

For me, it's always helped to identify real-life heros, people who have achieved what you want. Read their bios. Learn everything you can about their struggles, their failures, and their successes. Mark Cuban said that overnight success takes a lifetime. May that inspire you!

chrisked · 6 years ago
Don’t quit. It seems you have an entrepreneurial spirit. To me you sound quite successful. There is a difference between succeeding and winning. Coach John Wooden said it best. You might enjoy his talk. [1]

You were speaking about your friends making 6 figures. Examine how success would look like for you? Is it money? Running your own company and being an entrepreneur is way more than making money. Along the way you will acquire a lot of unique stories and experiences. They will be very different to your friends stories since they are most likely on a low risk, capped opportunity environment.

30 is still very young. You have many choices and paths still ahead of you. Very exciting. I guess this it what makes life beautiful. I wish you all the best.

[1] https://www.ted.com/talks/john_wooden_on_the_difference_betw...

steelframe · 6 years ago
The notion that you can't be an entrepreneur in a "9-5 day job" is one of the most pernicious myths in the tech industry. My current team in a company of nearly 100,000 is very much operating like a couple of the startups I've been involved with in years past. True, there's a lot of politics in the greater organization, but our manager is brilliantly insulating the team against that and is effectively implementing lean thinking, customer-first design and decision making, rapid failures and pivots, product autonomy, and a strong sense of team identity and camaraderie.

If we succeed, we may not get bought out with the first 4 or 5 people who started the company walking away with millions while the rest of us are largely left out. Instead, we all make a steady income with medical benefits and are filling up our 401(k)s. And if things don't work out, we'll all still have jobs.

lostmymind66 · 6 years ago
It's really not the same. I'm a consultant and also run a successful business on the side. With my side business, I get to control everything and the feeling I get when I'm actually successful cannot compare to anything from a 9-5. The risk is also part of it.

What you describe is an illusion of control. I've tried to fool myself into thinking this would work for me, but in the end, I always felt like something was missing.

artemisyna · 6 years ago
You're emotionally attached to a perception.

Teams like the one the other poster described definitely exist. They are also rare but and take work to find. Are you sure the times where you felt like "something was missing" was more of a factor of being on a team that advertised themselves as fast paced while not actually being one?

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davidgh · 6 years ago
Having walked a similar path, I like to refer to this quote when things are down.

The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

- Theodore Roosevelt

tubatree · 6 years ago
I don't mean to put you off. I give you kudos and credit for sticking it out. However I personally feel you do need to decide the right path as you put it. Like chrisked was saying you need to ask yourself what success means. Let's face it for most people it's all about the MONEY as much as some people would like to deny it and say it's all about the passion. How much would passion count when all you're making is £15,000 with a £150,000 mortgage over your head including living expenses or you're just trying to buy yourself a decent house in a decent area? I think for all humans it's not about the MONEY per say, it's what you can do with that money; financial security, holidays, buying stuff etc

Now you can carry on doing what you're doing for the "passion" but when you die what "experiences" will you really have? Dealing with really difficult clients, going to business meetings working all day and night, is that really an adventure? Mean while the ones that played it safe got married, had kids, lived fulfilling lives, travelled the world. So in reality who had more life experiences? The individual who played it safe or the entrepreneur who barely slept and worked himself to death?

Don't mean to be a party poop but I do feel it's an important decision for you to make. I think all too often we all get carried away with this idea of "don't quit" but sometimes you have to just draw the line when you're making a loss.

I'm just going to end quoting Einstein: "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results"

All the best pal.

return1 · 6 years ago
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results

That quote is suspicious for a physicists, who do the same thing a gazillion times in an accelerator and expect different results (and when they get them , they get a nobel)

nathan-io · 6 years ago
If you truly are an entrepreneur, you will be utterly miserable doing anything else.

There is a knowing.

usgroup · 6 years ago
Hear, hear
corbett3000 · 6 years ago
Would you rather end up a middle class retiree that played it safe, or die an entrepreneur who worked on this they were passionate about regardless of the financial outcome? Personally, I’d rather die broke with a life full of adventures that sometimes payed out and sometimes didn’t, rather than comfortably numb in a retirement home on social security.
mattmanser · 6 years ago
To be fair to the rich retirees, making a few webforms over and over again and calling yourself an entrepreneur isn't exactly a life lived of adventure.
msyea · 6 years ago
I recently did the same thing. Hit 30; reflected on last decade. I had moderate success consulting but didn’t get a single product off the ground. Considering the lost potential earnings, the need to reset savings and the lack of a pension I thought it prudent to get a full-time job. I’ve now been employed for 8 months or so and it’s a huge relief. Formerly every waking hour was working on the product. Now it’s 9-5 working for the man and then have the rest of the time to relax. It’s been truely impactful. I’ve started reading again and am much happier! Being an employee isn’t for me but I will stay with new status quo for a couple of years, get a healthy financial buffer and start something else again. I’m working for a medium sized company and am an engineer with limited responsibilities.
usgroup · 6 years ago
I think that this is fair advise and undoubtedly appropriate for some. Especially those that have cast their net badly and now believe that their time spent as an entrepreneur wasn't worth it. For others however, going back to work in that sort of capacity and being happy about it will read like celebrating a lobotomy.

I think that it's a bad world out there in many ways. When your back is up against the wall, it's a good time to think whether you want to use that opportunity to learn to emotionally deal with risk, anxiety and maybe even crisis. Because how you deal with a situation in which the shit properly hits the fan will decide a lot about what comes after it for you.