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gooseus · 8 years ago
There was a talk from the Royal Institution just uploaded yesterday (talk was in June), The Apocalypse and How to Avoid It[0], where Lewis Dartnell (author The Knowledge[1]) describes a gasifier stove you can make from a couple bean cans, and also brought up this gasifier engine technology and how it was used in London during the Blitz. This article has a ton of useful information that makes for a great followup.

Also at the talk were Vinay Gupta (Ethereum), Rosalind Eggo, and Hugh Lewis discussing different avenues to potential Apocalypse and their likelihood, etc.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxBhqonZEQ

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Rebuild-Civilization-Afterm...

walshemj · 8 years ago
As famously seen in dads army when they converted Jones the butchers lorry.
garrettgrimsley · 8 years ago
I saw some of these in use while visiting DPR Korea. We weren't up close, but the government tour guide confirmed that they were wood-burning trucks. Sadly I was not allowed to photograph the trucks. Like the article mentions, deforestation is an issue they can cause, something Korea suffers from greatly.
flyGuyOnTheSly · 8 years ago
>Like the article mentions, deforestation is an issue they can cause, something Korea suffers from greatly.

To be fair, that is something that almost every single developing nation in the history of human kind has suffered from greatly.

weinzierl · 8 years ago
When resources were scarce during WW II in Germany there were various kinds of wood gas vehicles. Here is a video of a 1942 tractor:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RMVwbjp514o

baud147258 · 8 years ago
From what I heard, it was the same in France, with various vehicles converted to use wood gas too.
averagewall · 8 years ago
Important downside explained half way through: "if we were to convert every vehicle, or even just a significant number, to wood gas, all the trees in the world would be gone and we would die of hunger because all agricultural land would be sacrificed for energy crops."
baud147258 · 8 years ago
Energy crops (subsidized by the government) has already replaced agricultural land for Ethanol fuel production, up to 1% of cultivated land worldwide being use for it.
Synaesthesia · 8 years ago
In the last years of WW2 I think Japan chopped down the last of its trees to make a bit of aviation fuel.
Flavius · 8 years ago
Wait, what? There's absolutely no evidence that "Japan chopped down the last of its trees". Why would you say such a thing? You enjoy lying on the internet?
tzahola · 8 years ago
I'm pretty sure there are pre-WW2 trees in Japan.
_0w8t · 8 years ago
Politicians in Sweden after WW2 had interesting mindset. They really tried to prepare the country for various worst-case scenarios. Researching wooden gas for cars was one thing.

Another is how they investigated if they should make own nuclear weapons. They decided not to after getting assurances from industry that they can make an atomic bomb within months if needed.

I wonder what other possibilities or backup technologies they considered?

totalZero · 8 years ago

  coal monoxide is a slow burning gas
I've never seen anyone refer to CO as "coal monoxide" before.

taejo · 8 years ago
It looks like the author's first language may be Dutch, where carbon monoxide is "koolmonoxid" and "kool" can mean both "coal" and "carbon" (although there are more specific words for coal such as "steenkool" = "stone carbon").
alkonaut · 8 years ago
Same in most Germanic/Scandinavian languages I believe. Carbon and Coal are synonymous.

Coal as in coal power, coal barbecue, and the element carbon use the same word. That’s not a coincidence.

Apart from some exotic forms like diamonds, trees or rabbits (less pure), coal is how we normally encounter carbon.

vkou · 8 years ago
In Russian, Carbon is "Uglerod", whereas coal is "Ugle". CO, when not referred to by its colloquial name, would be "Uglekislorod" - literally, Coal-oxide.
maxlybbert · 8 years ago
I’m not saying this is common knowledge, but it’s not a new idea: https://archive.org/details/FEMAEmergencyGassifer , https://www.nrel.gov/docs/legosti/old/3022.pdf . Then again, the fact that the article focuses on WWII cars says it’s not a new idea.
lawlessone · 8 years ago
Could we make it better though? a lot of heat must be lost gassifying the wood? Perhaps we could use that for thermometric power generation too.
outworlder · 8 years ago
Possibly. But harvesting that heat directly to 'motion' would probably not be feasible. Storing that on batteries may be better, as they can be slowly trickle charged, but provide a lot of power when there is demand.
aphextron · 8 years ago
I think it's definitely common knowledge to Europeans who would have direct cultural awareness of this due to the impact of WWII, however this is mindblowing to a North American.
codewritinfool · 8 years ago
Mother Earth News had an article about this: https://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/green-v...
yuhong · 8 years ago
Urea/diesel hybrids would be fun, since every modern engine has to use urea for SCR anyway.