zlg_codes (u/zlg_codes)

zlg_codes commented on Suspects can refuse to provide phone passcodes to police, court rules arstechnica.com/tech-poli... · Posted by u/thunderbong

dang · 2 years ago

You can't post like this here, and we ban accounts that do, so please don't do it again.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

Fair enough, I recognize when I'm not welcome.

I attempted to delete my posts and my account for you but there does not appear to be such facilities.

zlg_codes commented on McDonald's ice cream machine hackers say they found 'smoking gun' wired.com/story/kytch-tay... · Posted by u/atlasunshrugged

yterdy · 2 years ago

Every retail/food service job is understaffed. You ask what people displaced by AI will do for a living? That. They'll do that. Because, actually, we do need people at PoS, if we're selling to other people. Hint hint as to why you should be supporting "unskilled" labor unions, high wages for those workers, and the destigmatizing of those types of jobs.

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

Not aimed at you, but the other commenters on your comment.

There is no such thing as unskilled labor. Put a fucking normie from the street into any of these 'unskilled' jobs and find out just how many skills are needed just to do something like customer service.

Looking down on those people is what will lead to another internal conflict. They'll be the ones you depend on when society goes to shit.

zlg_codes commented on Suspects can refuse to provide phone passcodes to police, court rules arstechnica.com/tech-poli... · Posted by u/thunderbong

dghlsakjg · 2 years ago

Subtle distinction: I don't think the police, even with a warrant, can force you to open anything. They can use force to open something if you refuse (or seemingly, if they feel like it), but they can't make you do it.

A court on the other hand, can compel you to open something.

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

The only thing we must do in this world is die. Everything else is up for debate.

zlg_codes commented on Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted techdirt.com/2023/12/12/g... · Posted by u/josephcsible

nox100 · 2 years ago

I challenge you to go to any restaurant that has "unlimited refills", back up a tanker trunk and fill your truck. I don't think any court would enforce "unlimited" for that situation. I'm not sure this storage one is all that different

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

A lot of restaurants place a limit on the size of the container you're allowed to use, and there's a cultural expectation that you won't loiter just to fill more soda. Assuming you bought food and are continuing to buy food, the unlimited soda is more of a hook to keep you there and has clearly outlined terms. Your bladder will also give way before your stomach does.

zlg_codes commented on Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted techdirt.com/2023/12/12/g... · Posted by u/josephcsible

godelski · 2 years ago

It's also naive to think a big tech company wouldn't be aware of power distributions (see Pareto) when offering anything unlimited. Which Google does continue to offer unlimited data on Google Fi, but throttles (even though they also discontinued the unlimited photo upload with Pixels and many times offers expansion of drive space but if you upgrade to a paid plan you don't get the additional storage, you just get get expanded to that size...)

I also very much agree that the monopolistic behavior you're mentioning is not a think we should just go accepting and even more, not be victim blaming. It feels really weird to me that people are blaming the reporter. You know, a 1.6 trillion dollar company vs well... nearly anyone else.

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

Wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of Google employees hang out here and try to deliberately influence comments. Same for the other companies.

zlg_codes commented on Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted techdirt.com/2023/12/12/g... · Posted by u/josephcsible

shwouchk · 2 years ago

Sorry, but I call FUD here;

Had a very similar experience with google, except with maybe 20tb rather than 200, and no data loss.

They gave warnings at least a year in advance about the transition to google workspace from google for business or however it was called before. It was quite clear that this transition would eventually be mandatory and that it did not include unlimited space for a flat fee.

I punted on the transition for as long as possible, and when it finally arrived I temporarily added some accounts until I removed the excess data (mainly old backups I did not need anymore).

Nothing in life is unlimited and taking such a promise at face value appears to me as being willfully naive. Relying on such an offer as your main storage is begging for trouble. Expecting this to happen is precisely why I only stored backups there.

You don’t need to be an expert to do the math, consider that just to store the data, without any redundancy and without it being constantly spinning would have retailed at at ~ $4K using the cheapest drives (~25 8tb drives), and would have cost them ~$1/h or ~$700 to constantly run at CA electricity prices (~8W idle per drive). And this before redundancy, backups, bandwidth, etc. This is obviously unsustainable and will eventually end.

Same goes eg for dropbox, who offered “unlimited” storage for their business plan until fairly recently but now have the same limit of 5tb/acct as Google.

Who in their right mind would rely on such an obvious abuse of what was meant by “unlimited” to store the only copy of their life’s work?

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

> Nothing in life is unlimited and taking such a promise at face value appears to me as being willfully naive.

What are your thoughts on false advertising? What part of "unlimited" in the advertisement should be allowed, if the resource itself is not unlimited?

zlg_codes commented on Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted techdirt.com/2023/12/12/g... · Posted by u/josephcsible

tmpz22 · 2 years ago

A small business likely would - at least at the customers expense. A medium size business might if you could talk to a reasonable person in the right department and they had the time to do it. Its beyond the ability of a large company.

This is what people are actually angry about. As a company gets more and more successful (size/revenue) it becomes less capable at going above and beyond for the majority of their customers. And we live in a world of increasingly large hyper consolidated companies. It feels like its only going to get worse from here. IMO thats where the legitimate angst is. Its going to get worse.

zlg_codes · 2 years ago

You're right, and it's paradoxical. Companies with poor customer service should be taking hits in the stock market and in the public eye, but Comcast is still around...

The guy in TFA should be a warning to others: you cannot trust other machines to handle your data responsibly. They'll turn on you and demand a ransom when it's convenient. Self-host, and own your infrastructure.