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wbronitsky commented on Using AI to negotiate a $195k hospital bill down to $33k   threads.com/@nthmonkey/po... · Posted by u/stevenhubertron
tonymet · 2 months ago
We suddenly woke up in the Kafka-esque purgatory of critical American healthcare billing. We’re in our 50s and had been perfectly healthy, then suddenly we got diagnosed with what will be over $500k in treatment over the next 12 months— and multiple millions for the foreseeable future. We have insurance, but many of the required procedures are “out of network” and there’s no way to tell (we have “the best” insurance, supposedly). Even with insurance it will be at least $50k/yr out of pocket

But the raw numbers like $200k for this poor gentleman’s heart attack or $500k aren’t the most alarming. It’s the Terry-Gilliam-level of absurdity of the billing process. Absolutely no one will tell you how much things are, and when you ask, they sass you that it is a ridiculous question. Even though one of my providers just recently started offering estimates, those are off by 100-200% , and completely missing for about half of what has been ordered.

We are both very strong accountants, and despite trying to do audits of these services, it’s impossible. There are 3-4 levels of referred services, bundled codes, nested codes, complication / technical / professional codes , exceptional status codes . Providers overbill, double bill. On accident and on purpose. When we call to get it corrected there is no way to make corrections.

You’ll be asked to take a diagnostic not knowing whether it will cost $10 or $15000 . Even if you try to be responsible and call the provider (who isn’t your doctor, clinic, or hospital ) – they won’t be able to tell you.

The point I’m trying to make isn’t to make you sympathetic. It’s to reinforce in all of the great technical minds here that healthcare billing is the most complicated spaghetti code cluster flock of a system that you’ve ever imagined. It’s far worse than any piece of software you’ve ever seen. And we all just accept the bills and pay them.

Supply and demand and finding a better vendor doesn’t work. There are some rare exceptions like elective MRIs – but those aren’t the norm. Nearly every service is something time sensitive or your disease will get significantly worse. Moreover, signing up a new provider has $1000+ in billing and a few hours in paperwork to make the transfer. is it worth saving $500 for one MRI when $250k worth of services are unaccountable?

The only thing I’m sure of is that there has to be tremendous amounts of incidental and deliberate corruption . Auditing a single patient’s billing is impossible – so a population’s worth is a goldmine .

wbronitsky · 2 months ago
Matt Stoller, a journalist who blogs about monopolies, just wrote all about the pricing issue this week: https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/monopoly-round-up-obamaca...

America has doubled down on middlemen controlling the prices of medical care and making sure that there is no set price for anything. With the ACA effectively falling apart in the new budget, we do have a chance to move to a different reality, one where medicare prices are the set prices for everything, but that is nearly a political impossibility given the amount that these middlemen spend in keeping politicians who support that from winning primaries. Instead, we are stuck in a situation where companies get to dictate prices and access to care while we get diminishing returns in health quality and longevity.

wbronitsky commented on Ruby core team takes ownership of RubyGems and Bundler   ruby-lang.org/en/news/202... · Posted by u/sebiw
brightball · 2 months ago
He's also in a bit of a unique situation because of his public political profile was essentially forced.

- Politics at work were becoming a huge problem at 37Signals

- They asked that politics be kept out of company chats, but encouraged people to be political active on non-work channels/social media/etc even during work hours

- People lost their minds at this incredibly reasonable request which then blew up on the internet

- They offered any employee 6 months severance if they weren't comfortable with the new policy. About 1/3 of the company took it.

- Rails Conf dis-invited the creator of Rails

- Obviously, this was not going to sit well as people were trying to create a very public political flex against DHH and at that point, he started getting much more vocal about the problem of politics sweeping into every aspect of life.

In the following years...

- DHH becomes very publicly outspoken against politics infecting everything

- 37 Signals publishes another successful book

- Ships much more quickly as all of the people constantly distracted by politics at work are no longer in the building

- Starts the Rails World conference to great success

- Rails Conf shuts down

- DHH ships Omarchy which is getting significant support

So the end result has been that a bunch of people tried to essentially "cancel" DHH and the result was him having virtually non-stop, resounding success while publicly speaking out against those who created the problem in the first place...because some people really do just want to build cool things regardless of your politics.

wbronitsky · 2 months ago
I don't know how this fits into the narrative you just posted, but DHH was a keynote speaker at RailsConf this year. I was there and heard him speak. He didn't speak about anything "political"; just his usual ranting and raving, this time about how long it takes to test and deploy things.

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wbronitsky commented on Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music   music.ishkur.com/... · Posted by u/sajberpank
andoando · 3 months ago
Thanks, mixesdb looks neat.

>Electronic music is anything but niche

Electronic music is a huge genre. There's a ton of popular artists but there's also so much great stuff you'll never hear at concerts/festivals.

wbronitsky · 3 months ago
I would say it heavily depends on what converts and festivals you’re going to. I just went to Making Time in Philadelphia where Fourtet was the headliner and by far the biggest name. Everyone else would be what you would consider “underground” or niche. My favorite DJ, Donato Dozzy, played an incredible set.
wbronitsky commented on Australia widens teen social media ban to YouTube, scraps exemption   reuters.com/legal/litigat... · Posted by u/Brajeshwar
skeezyboy · 5 months ago
aggressive conduct lol, i think youre getting away with yourself there. how come adults are immune to it? i mean youre on social media right this second (decrying it but lets ignore that), how hasnt it affected you in that way? or is this "good" social media?
wbronitsky · 5 months ago
The post you are trying to refute has a source which is a study that found "It can obstruct the ability to interpret emotions, fuel aggressive conduct, and harm one's psychological health in general."
wbronitsky commented on Read Google's memo warning employees to 'think again'   businessinsider.com/googl... · Posted by u/cyclecount
paxys · 2 years ago
There are ~0 comments in any of the linked threads that are pro or anti war/Israel/Palestine. The discussion is about this specific situation at Google, and is flagged by people who want to censor it.
wbronitsky · 2 years ago
That's just not the case here. Most of the comments are taking a stance on Israel/Palestine and arguing from there. There are a ton of comments likening Israel to the Nazis. That's pretty anti-Israel, no matter what side you're on. I mean, even look at the sibling post to yours. Its anti-Israel conspiracy theories.
wbronitsky commented on Read Google's memo warning employees to 'think again'   businessinsider.com/googl... · Posted by u/cyclecount
wunderland · 2 years ago
Wow. I left my parent comment 2 minutes ago and this thread has already been removed from the front page.

Story has 46 points and is 29 minutes old at the time I'm writing this comment.

Are we not allowed to discuss the actions of one of the largest tech companies?

wbronitsky · 2 years ago
The comments are just a flame war about Israel. Maybe that's why so many people are flagging it.
wbronitsky commented on Suica Technology and Strategy for Future Development (2016) [pdf]   jreast.co.jp/e/developmen... · Posted by u/stpn
ink_13 · 2 years ago
I was not able to register my foreign phone for Suica when in Japan last February, I had to get a physical card. Maybe it's changed since then?
wbronitsky · 2 years ago
iPhones work but foreign (outside of Japan) purchased Android devices don't
wbronitsky commented on Scores decline again for 13-year-old students in reading and mathematics   nationsreportcard.gov/hig... · Posted by u/alach11
jhedwards · 2 years ago
> incentivizes schools to improve.

Doesn't school choice divert funds away from public schools, depriving them of the means to improve?

wbronitsky · 2 years ago
Yes, it absolutely does. It also uses public funds for private religious institutions, which I personally believe goes against the separation of church and state.

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