Readit News logoReadit News

Dead Comment

Dead Comment

Dead Comment

Dead Comment

Dead Comment

Dead Comment

throwlaplace commented on Amazon sellers marking products as collectible to get around price gouging rules   theverge.com/21273383/ama... · Posted by u/juokaz
kukx · 6 years ago
While not perfect free market/capitalism pulled up more people from poverty than any other system. It is usually about who you compare yourself to. If you compare yourself to 1% of the most wealthy country in the world then you are most likely going to look poor. But if you compare yourself to the bottom 1% of the poorest country you most likely going to turn out sickly rich. And when you do the same comparison to the poor in the far past then it gets even more crazy.
throwlaplace · 6 years ago
>While not perfect free market/capitalism pulled up more people from poverty than any other system

Nope not true - that award goes to communist China

>China lifting more than 800 million people out of poverty since the start of its economic reform is a "great story in human history", World Bank President Jim Yong Kim said today, underlining that there is "lessons to be learned" from this Chinese experience.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/chin...

>Over the past three decades, China has successfully led the greatest poverty alleviation program in the history of the world. During that time, an estimated 500 million Chinese were lifted out of extreme poverty.

https://news.trust.org/item/20140408110950-ndf6e/

I'm sure I'll be downvoted for this for some reason or another

throwlaplace commented on Surveillance tools used by the Minneapolis Police Department   buzzfeednews.com/article/... · Posted by u/jbegley
JarlUlvi · 6 years ago
You're not explaining the other side of the story.

Many felons are convicted and owe fees to their victims, or to the govt. If you commit a violent crime, or a financial crime, there can be a financial penalty. Many of the felons that want to vote, never paid back their victims, or the state, for the crimes they were committed.

The Florida proposition "restored the voting rights of Floridians with felony convictions after they complete all terms of their sentence including parole or probation"

Now, they want to vote, but still haven't compensated their victims, which was a part of the sentence, based on a lawful conviction.

throwlaplace · 6 years ago
False. I'm drawing attention to the amendment and what the will of the people was/is and efforts made to subvert that will. The amendment as on the ballot said nothing about requiring money as a prerequisite. That's what Florida voted for: returning freed felons their rights. To ascribe some other interpretation to "terms" is to subvert the will of the people of Florida.

Ultimately the courts will decide whether the legal language "terms" includes fines and restitution. Seeing as these felons are free and fines are a civil matter I don't know how the courts could find that such things are part of their criminal sentence.

Edit: also btw I linked to reputable sources. I didn't obscure anything or omit anything.

It's right there on wiki:

>However, by mid-2019 Republican Governor DeSantis signed a bill into law which originated in the Florida Senate, SB 7066, which required that "people with felony records pay 'all fines and fees' associated with their sentence prior to the restoration of their voting rights"

It's a post facto qualifier. If fines were implied by the initial amendment this bill would be unnecessary.

throwlaplace commented on Surveillance tools used by the Minneapolis Police Department   buzzfeednews.com/article/... · Posted by u/jbegley
chrisco255 · 6 years ago
How dare they make felons pay restitution to victims of violent crimes before voting.
throwlaplace · 6 years ago
How dare they indeed? It wasn't in the amendment. No one voted for that.

u/throwlaplace

KarmaCake day333November 5, 2019View Original