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three_seagrass commented on ElonJet Is Now Suspended   twitter.com/jxcksweeney/s... · Posted by u/ffsoftboiled
PathOfEclipse · 3 years ago
Your very own tweet disproves what you're saying: "I am against censorship that goes far beyond the law."

Even back in April he was not saying he was only going to censor illegal speech. Anyways, since Elon acquired twitter he's made it a major talking point to say that twitter is still moderating by the same rules as before: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1588538640401018880

"Twitter has had a massive drop in revenue, due to activist groups pressuring advertisers, even though nothing has changed with content moderation and we did everything we could to appease the activists."

The ElonJet account was violating rules for leaking internal company communications. Is that type of censorship going "far beyond the law?" I don't think so. Internal leaks can damage a company and the company should therefore protect itself. If anything, Twitter could be legally liable to shareholders for failing to do so.

On the other hand, blacklisting Dr. Jay Bhattacharya for saying things about Covid that turned out to be far more correct than what the CDC was saying at the same time is indeed going far beyond the law and also harming all of society: https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-files-confirm-stanford...

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
>On the other hand, blacklisting Dr. Jay Bhattacharya for saying things about Covid that turned out to be far more correct than what the CDC was saying at the same time is indeed going far beyond the law and also harming all of society: https://www.foxnews.com/media/twitter-files-confirm-stanford...

This is textbook whataboutism, using Fox News no less. It's irrelevant to the discussion about Musk's hypocrisy on free speech, which you also ignored in your previous comment:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

three_seagrass commented on Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok   rubio.senate.gov/public/i... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
mensetmanusman · 3 years ago
If China is able to ban all western social media because of “law” then per definition any law that stops Chinese social media is also “legit” if we go by the argument that it is okay to ban things if the law says to ban them.
three_seagrass · 3 years ago
Please elaborate on how a law banning a single company is the same as a law that allow companies to comply.
three_seagrass commented on ElonJet Is Now Suspended   twitter.com/jxcksweeney/s... · Posted by u/ffsoftboiled
PathOfEclipse · 3 years ago
> I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech.

Where's the hypocrisy? Musk said he wanted to broaden the speech allowed on the platform, not allow speech of all kinds.

> "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem like a liberal conspiracy."

Maybe try getting your info from a non-leftwing source. There has been plenty of damning info coming from these internal comms.

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
> Where's the hypocrisy?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

> "My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"

three_seagrass commented on ElonJet Is Now Suspended   twitter.com/jxcksweeney/s... · Posted by u/ffsoftboiled
electrondood · 3 years ago
I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech.

Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem like a liberal conspiracy."

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
What's even more fascinating is how hot-button an issue Free Speech has become.

Just look at some of the inflammatory replies to your comment that just mentions it. There's more going on with the semantics of the phrase being used to irrationally rile people up to outrage, rather than actually being about the definition of free speech.

three_seagrass commented on Tesla FSD data is getting worse, according to beta tester self-reports   electrek.co/2022/12/14/te... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
voganmother42 · 3 years ago
Well and you don’t need to go far to find others defending the risk to others as well, “it wouldn’t have gone up the curb if there was a person there”, its interesting to see how cavalier people normally are with making that judgement for others, especially for their offspring
three_seagrass · 3 years ago
Also consumer bias, or "post-purchase rationalization" - i.e. humans overly attribute positivity to goods/services from brands they buy from.

Even when it's as bad as throwing you in the wrong lane of traffic.

three_seagrass commented on Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok   rubio.senate.gov/public/i... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
Firebrand · 3 years ago
TikTok’s popularity is already waning in the U.S. Installs of the app are down 33% YoY in November, from 6.6MM in November '21 to 4.5MM in November '22. -0.3% YoY worldwide.

In fact, Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp outgrew TikTok and even YouTube during this period:

https://twitter.com/eric_seufert/status/1602045164016615428?...

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
It's down across the board except for Facebook apps, meaning Meta probably increased their advertising budgets during this timeframe relative to the others.
three_seagrass commented on Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok   rubio.senate.gov/public/i... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
mensetmanusman · 3 years ago
Therefore the US is free to pass laws that make TikTok illegal by your own reasoning.
three_seagrass · 3 years ago
Please elaborate on how a law banning a single company is the same as a law that allow companies to comply.
three_seagrass commented on Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B   markets.businessinsider.c... · Posted by u/manholio
Octokiddie · 3 years ago
> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday

It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them their money on demand.

That's called a "default."

Why? The article says something about a key bank being closed. Nonsense. Is the USDC held at that bank? No. Binance is allegedly holding it. Only clearly they're not because they can't produce it on demand.

I'm frankly amazed that people with the ability to understand this alphabet soup mumbo jumbo keep falling for the same scam over and over again. Underneath all of the slick marketing and nerd posturing is a simple truth: these are all fractional reserve systems. Conceptually, they are no different than banks or pyramid schemes.

The only possible reason you want a stable coin, rather than dollars, in the first place is because you're doing something that requires you to route around US financial regulation.

The US dollar is digital. It moves around the world using a digital network. It's traded the world over by almost every country whether they want to or not. You can buy almost anything there is to buy with US dollars.

You "need" a stable coin because you're trying to have your cake and eat it too: US dollar-like liquidity and value preservation without US dollar financial regulation.

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
>I'm frankly amazed that people with the ability to understand this alphabet soup mumbo jumbo keep falling for the same scam over and over again. Underneath all of the slick marketing and nerd posturing is a simple truth: these are all fractional reserve systems. Conceptually, they are no different than banks or pyramid schemes.

There are rational people who knowingly invest in ponzi and other schemes because they think they can get out before the music stops playing.

Some ultimately do, and some ultimately get caught.

three_seagrass commented on The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Indictment [pdf]   justice.gov/usao-sdny/pre... · Posted by u/dereg
bigwavedave · 3 years ago
What about flag signaling? Asking for a friend.
three_seagrass · 3 years ago
Ok as long as you don't use a halyard, since rope could be considered wire.
three_seagrass commented on Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok   rubio.senate.gov/public/i... · Posted by u/jmsflknr
JumpCrisscross · 3 years ago
> TikTok already stores its data in the US and gives the US authorities full access to it

A courtesy also extended to Beijing [1].

[1] https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilybakerwhite/tiktok-...

three_seagrass · 3 years ago
Did you read the article? ByteDance's headquarters is in Beijing and these leaked audio tapes are talking about engineers in the headquarters logging into U.S. servers.

This isn't some smoking gun about CCP surveillance, but more about how the sausage is made for a global app.

u/three_seagrass

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