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slowtrek commented on The Software Engineering Identity Crisis   annievella.com/posts/the-... · Posted by u/napolux
slowtrek · 5 months ago
We could always surrender the identity. Who ever said a Software Engineer should be a profession that should last hundreds of years?
slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
EdwardKrayer · 5 months ago
You're right. If there are methods to get creators paid, while ensuring unfettered access to all - it absolutely should happen. The legal system in America doesn't have a good track record of nuance, especially when nuance is necessary. My views come from the idea that the American legal system will either smite them into bankruptcy, or it will give them the precedent they need to exempt past violations, and carry on as usual.

Nuance is needed, and I hope that they find it.

slowtrek · 5 months ago
Nuance is needed

So much so that your first reply froze me and made me think. This is not easy, it's absolutely in our nature to gate keep knowledge.

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slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
slowtrek · 5 months ago
Can someone please vouch for this thread and unflag it? It's kind of the main tech issue of our time ...
slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
EdwardKrayer · 5 months ago
It seems that most people on this site believe that this is a good thing, but all this restriction would mean is that for the next while - the only companies able to afford mass licensing would be in the SPY 500, and that's assuming these companies wouldn't just flock to a nation outside of Americas influence.

At some point, it becomes a national security issue. This technology is going to be leveraged in ways we can't even dream up today. Copyright law needs to be re-imagined in a way that won't restrict advancement in AI, and AI-adjacent technology. It's not because we want to - it's because we have to.

slowtrek · 5 months ago
It's not that hard. So if you want to ask questions or work with a Stephen King book, you have to rent it during your LLM session. OpenAi would make a small fee, the author would get the majority, and the user gets value. You don't have to be a billion-dollar company to set up a monetization structure like that. Startups could do this if they negotiate with authors.

For general questions, you can use the free wiki that's ingested into the LLM or pay a fee for general content like current events.

You keep the LLM free in the third-world out of necessity. OpenAI, in the first world, cannot ask to be treated as if it were a third-world company because we are too rich to be that ridiculous.

slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
thewanderer1983 · 5 months ago
Nature is a complex system. Many are in competition, it's not just humans. Most of these systems form a balance (see biodiversity). Due to resource scarcity, power tends to form which gives these power structures and advantage. Humans form these power structures arounds groups. This has been happening for as long as humans tribalised. Right now, humans can form these groups at nation-state level complexity and to some extent more global. This is humans current best effort. If you can do better, please do.
slowtrek · 5 months ago
No need to even complicate it to that degree. A wrong begets another wrong forever unless someone stops doing the next wrong thing. That's literally what it takes.
slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
cadamsdotcom · 5 months ago
You have to remember a company is not a social being with balanced obligations. Its obligation is to its owners and not to society.

If OpenAI’s leadership weren’t saying precisely this, they wouldn’t be doing their jobs.

slowtrek · 5 months ago
Yeah, we have a wrong conception. It's fine, society often has wrong conceptions. We are just dead wrong about ruthless capitalism. A company is a custodian of a good society, it has responsibilities that far exceed profit.
slowtrek commented on OpenAI Says It's "Over" If It Can't Steal All Your Copyrighted Work   futurism.com/openai-over-... · Posted by u/raju
fffernan · 5 months ago
Last I checked Google is not buying or pirating books for Google Search they just grab free data that has been provided.
slowtrek · 5 months ago
The same way we can't process what a trillion dollars looks like, we can't actually process what large scale theft looks like. For shits and giggles, these people also have a trillion dollars.

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