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nativecoinc commented on Venetian glass beads may be oldest European artifacts in North America (2021)   smithsonianmag.com/smart-... · Posted by u/thunderbong
nativecoinc · 2 years ago
Amazingly the article title itself says “May Be Oldest European Artifacts” but then the body of the article says “among the oldest European-made”!

Flagged for that reason.

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
> Flagged for that reason.

The submission, of course. :)

nativecoinc commented on Venetian glass beads may be oldest European artifacts in North America (2021)   smithsonianmag.com/smart-... · Posted by u/thunderbong
jimhefferon · 2 years ago
The head differs from the article. The article says "among the oldest."
nativecoinc · 2 years ago
Amazingly the article title itself says “May Be Oldest European Artifacts” but then the body of the article says “among the oldest European-made”!

Flagged for that reason.

nativecoinc commented on Venetian glass beads may be oldest European artifacts in North America (2021)   smithsonianmag.com/smart-... · Posted by u/thunderbong
Thoeu388 · 2 years ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse_aux_Meadows

Technically Newfoundland is an island, but I would call that North America

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
> Technically Newfoundland is an island

For anyone who says this I wonder if they are consistent with how they discuss continents:

- They take care to talk about the Caribbean as something in the waters near North America but not in North America itself

- They talk about Indonesia as something that is in the waters close to Asia and Australia—no need for “Oceania” obviously

- Madagascar as an island next to Africa

And so on and so on.

nativecoinc commented on Coal use hit an all-time high last year   cnbc.com/2023/07/27/coal-... · Posted by u/melling
mad_tortoise · 2 years ago
Of course, I believe the climate crisis is the most important problem in the world. However I don't think former colonial powers have any right to say or rather lecture former colonised countries on their obligations, when the colonial powers haven't properly addressed why the colonised countries are in the state they are in. It is also not just at the feet of former colonial powers, the US wasn't a coloniser but did have a tremendous imperial influence throughout the Third World that has stymied progress and thrown Third World countries into a debt trap that they cannot escape (unfortunately China is doing the same these days). This needs to be addressed too.

And until these issues are addressed, the Third World countries who rely so heavily on coal power cannot get off their reliance on it. It will need a global effort led and on the financial burden of the First World, to support the economies of the countries that are using coal to progress. I believe that is the only way we will turn this issue around, otherwise we are just putting a plaster on a stab wound.

Let's not forget Africa and India's growth over the next century is going to eclipse anything we've ever seen before, and without the correct structures in place we will have no chance of combatting this issue.

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
> Of course, I believe the climate crisis is the most important problem in the world. However I don't think former colonial powers have any right to say or rather lecture former colonised countries on their obligations, when the colonial powers haven't properly addressed why the colonised countries are in the state they are in.

Words and lectures are irrelevant. Only what the First World can do—including influencing the Third World—matters.

> It is also not just at the feet of former colonial powers, the US wasn't a coloniser but did have a tremendous imperial influence throughout the Third World that has stymied progress and thrown Third World countries into a debt trap that they cannot escape (unfortunately China is doing the same these days). This needs to be addressed too.

I guess “stymied progress” is a way of phrasing it.

And what about the Philippines?

nativecoinc commented on Coal use hit an all-time high last year   cnbc.com/2023/07/27/coal-... · Posted by u/melling
mad_tortoise · 2 years ago
We should not pillory other countries, especially not coming from a First World perspective. However the First World had a head start, through various factors being colonialism and the industrial revolution. Putting the traditional Third World in a lesser position when it comes to ability to compete with First World countries.

The issue is, we cannot deride those who use coal to try to catch up, when that was the fuel that got many First World countries to the position they are in. The First World likes to be high and mighty in these terms, however not very often is it introspective enough to realise that the Third World simply cannot operate in the same way. China and India are in a different spot, however both were distinctly at a disadvantage in progression as a country until late in the 20th century.

All of this ultimately leads to a greater question, how does the planet intend to reduce demand on coal while also allowing countries reliant on it to grow? In Africa, there's various steps that need to be taken. In my opinion international debt cancellation, as debt structures that were put in place by the First World org's were and are predatory, and rely on First World demands to be met. Secondly, the big R world, reparations for colonialism and imperialism should be looked at. While these are predominantly monetary steps, these are the great blockers to progress. It is ingrained suppression of Third World countries that ties in to the fractured history the First world has with the Third. And similar steps should be taken with South American countries as a lot of their issues mirror African issues for similar reasons.

Point being it does matter what the First World does on its own part. As the First World's per capita consumption of energy far outweigh's its Third World counterparts. The effort need's to be increased through financial mechanisms to aid countries that aren't able to wean themselves off of coal dependency. India and China are interesting examples, but neither at their rate of growth have the ability to get off coal. India even less so than China, and there quite clearly isn't a global effort to help countries that are struggling with coal dependency.

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
Not being a hypocrite is not really that important compared to solving the problem at hand.

You also get into absurd situations like how former colonial powers can’t say that up-and-coming colonial powers can’t develop in that particular way. Some things are just bad to do.

nativecoinc commented on Coal use hit an all-time high last year   cnbc.com/2023/07/27/coal-... · Posted by u/melling
FirmwareBurner · 2 years ago
Then you should also not buy goods made in Germany, because it massively ramped up coal excavation and burning last year, and not just any coal, but lignite, the nastiest, dirties, most lifespan-reducing type of coal possible.

They even leveled an entire village(Lützerath) to mine coal and the German police had to clash with climate protestors while getting stuck in mud and attacked by a wizard.[1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUOir-SAKDs

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
Environmental activist wizards get resistance to environmental hazards. Mud won’t bother them.
nativecoinc commented on Coal use hit an all-time high last year   cnbc.com/2023/07/27/coal-... · Posted by u/melling
damnesian · 2 years ago
If the global energy business operated according to the principle of what helps everyone the most- getting the whole planet to a cheap and abundant energy source as soon as it is possible, in order to create the greatest public good- rather than indulging corporations in extracting the very last penny of value out of old ways of getting energy regardless of the detriment it might cause society- I think we'd regard Greenpeace's lobbying as one of the contributors to that ultimate resolution.

You can't blame activists for the inertia of entrenched robber barons. Agitation doesn't always get the best results at the time, but in the long view it's one of only a few impulses that move the juggernaut not only forward, but forward in the correct direction.

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
What-ifs about how the world operates are non sequiturs. They apparently got their way in Germany even though nuclear is greener than petroleum energy (according to the premise of the GP comment).
nativecoinc commented on The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Sequence Diagrams in MermaidJS   jessems.com/posts/2023-07... · Posted by u/jessems
urxvtcd · 2 years ago
> That aside the “unreasonable effectiveness” allusion to “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences” is clearly overwrought. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

It's a meme title, I've seen it a couple of times on HN: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=Unreasonable+Effectiveness

Also see: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

nativecoinc · 2 years ago
Yes, an allusion is indeed a kind of meme...

u/nativecoinc

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