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miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
brooksbp · 2 years ago
Do you use it to project manage Dart itself?
miladmalek · 2 years ago
Yep- we use Dart at Dart. It's kind of fun since improvements to Dart means that Dart does a better job at helping us develop Dart, which then feeds back in again. Dogfooding has been great- highly recommend.
miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
esafak · 2 years ago
I expected the integration links to tell me what each integration can do rather than take me to a login form.

The ideal project management tool for me would integrate with the tools I use to do the work being tracked, and ML to automatically log everything in the project management tool. Kata lets you send updates from your other application using special comments, but I would prefer not to even have to do that.

miladmalek · 2 years ago
Yeah, the integration links currently send you into the product. We are planning on adding an integrations page to the website in the very near future though so you can see the info without needing to sign up first. Just haven't gotten to it yet.

We're also planning to continue adding more integrations over time so more of your work can be logged automatically- we talk about this a bit more in some other comments here. It does take time and effort to get (and keep) those functioning though and half the time we make an integration it gets less usage than you might expect. Still, we're always interested in learning about more tools that our users would find value in integrating.

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
rgblambda · 2 years ago
>repetitive PM chores like cleaning up the backlog or drafting changelog updates.

This is something PMs are supposed to do?

miladmalek · 2 years ago
Sometimes yeah, but we more just meant that part as repetitive project management chores that someone often has to do- might be different people in different organizations.
miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
rexreed · 2 years ago
How are you going to reach the market of project managers? Have had some experience with this in the past to mixed results.
miladmalek · 2 years ago
Most of our users today have just been word of mouth, so we need to work harder on flexing our marketing muscles. I'd love to hear more about your experiences reaching PMs specifically.

Early on we reached out to various PMs on Linkedin and set up some calls that way but that was more for feedback and direction-setting than anything else. I think most of our growth with larger teams has started from the founder or C-level as opposed to PMs but that might be a sign we need to improve more here.

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
mrcwinn · 2 years ago
"We grew frustrated with X." And yet every one of these AI features is coming to Linear, Asana, Jira, etc. So what would justify the switching cost?
miladmalek · 2 years ago
I guess it would be justified if the particular implementations we focus on (like AI roadmap planning or duplicate detection) are of interest to you. I'd agree that they are probably coming to other tools that want to adapt eventually, but by and large they aren't there yet! I think we take a markedly more AI-forward philosophy than other tools so I'm honestly not 100% sure that they even will fully adapt in a timely manner- especially the large incumbents. Most of those are still focused on finding different creative ways to put chatbots in their products instead of meshing useful AI features in a more streamlined way.

Also admittedly this isn't a product-reason, but at least for now as a relatively small startup we're able to offer a lot more custom support and strategizing with any team that switches over. I can't promise we won't eventually run into the same bottlenecks as the large companies eventually, but for now I'm confident our service is better and some of our users have expressed that as one of the primary motivators for keeping with Dart.

Ultimately, if you're happy with your current system and don't see your team becoming more efficient on Dart then it's probably not worth the switch. However it doesn't take long for any extra hours saved each week to start adding up.

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
trollbridge · 2 years ago
Do you have any free or discounted plans for nonprofits? Monday offers this and one of our nonprofit partners uses it.
miladmalek · 2 years ago
Yes, and we've done some great work with nonprofits before. We still need to make that visible somewhere on the updated website but shoot me an email: milad@itsdart.com
miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
e12e · 2 years ago
Looks interesting. Does it do progress forecasting based on historical task velocity, without the need for manual estimation?

(See eg: https://screenful.com )

Ed: Does it support importing historical data, and/or external data sources like GitHub, Jira, Trello etc - for current projects and to set a baseline grounded in data? Like historical velocity?

Ed2: I guess so? From the welcome email:

> Once you're logged in, you can import your tasks from most other apps and let us know if you need support with that

miladmalek · 2 years ago
Dart will help you with forecasting based on historical task velocity, yes. See AI timelining features for example, and also with task property filling if you use sizes or date ranges. That being said forecasting is notoriously difficult and like humans, AI isn't perfect there today.

There's definitely a lot more we can do here though and we have some plans to dive in more. I haven't looked into screenful before, thanks for sharing!

Ed: just saw your edit, yes you can import from other tools at https://app.itsdart.com/?settings=import

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
infocollector · 2 years ago
Anyone who has used this and notion - any pro/con for using this vs. notion for PM? (Notion these days also has an AI component)
miladmalek · 2 years ago
We've used Notion as well pretty extensively and actually have an integration in Dart with them. From my current experiences Notion AI is mostly helpful for brainstorming, document editing, and search (for example to help with finding relevant info across your company docs). Their PM tool is more of an open-sandbox approach that doesn't always have the most robust features in any particular direction but is very flexible and easy to try out different templates for.

We have a bit of a stronger emphasis on personal and team task management with less of a sandbox-feel and more of an opinionated-PM feel, and our AI features are in line with that with stuff like task property filling and roadmap suggestions. We also have similar capabilities in AI doc editing (although Notion and other tools are definitely more fleshed out there if your use case is primarily writing).

That being said it's a very quickly evolving landscape and I wouldn't be surprised if things change in the near future. Would love to hear anyone else's perspective as well who've either tried both or used our integration.

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
eightnoteight · 2 years ago
* changelog feature is pretty great

* one other feature I have always wanted at my previous company is about transparency of how many tasks a person is doing, that way I don't have to bother him multiple times on whether a certain task is picked or not

* similarly for monthly planning or weekly planning, the stakeholders involved in planning is often the team itself and humans are not that great in remembering what all promises they made over the last week. i wish there was some way for all stakeholders even outside teams to be notified of planning events and add items to the planning event agenda

miladmalek · 2 years ago
Thanks for the ideas!

- Having more information on team workloads with suggested opportunities for rebalancing is something we're already thinking about. I suppose this is a related idea to have general visibility on amount or total volume (with sizes included) of tasks a person is doing in team/public spaces.

- We'll think harder about this other idea on involving outside stakeholders more. More opportunities for sharing lists and docs with external stakeholders is already something we're tinkering with so I can definitely see this fitting in as well.

miladmalek commented on Launch HN: Dart (YC W22) – Project management with automatic report generation    · Posted by u/miladmalek
TheFragenTaken · 2 years ago
Even if I am probably not going to use it (too heavily/deeply invested in Azure Devops), I just wanted to give kudos to your product demo. By itself it's straight to the point, doesn't ramble, and calmly highlights whats important about your product. Compared to your other videos on the YouTube channel, it's a dramatic improvement. Congrats on the launch.
miladmalek · 2 years ago
Thanks! Yeah going through the process of making this demo efficient was definitely a good exercise. It's always harder than I think it will be as my default is admittedly kind of rambly.

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