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jpatokal commented on Free Public Transport in Estonia   economist.com/europe/2019... · Posted by u/dullgiulio
badpun · 7 years ago
European countries absolutely have their share of smelly homeless people.
jpatokal · 7 years ago
Can you name a European city that has anything approaching the homeless problem of SF, Seattle or NYC?

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jpatokal commented on South Korean students flock to Japan   japantimes.co.jp/news/201... · Posted by u/Ultramanoid
user982 · 7 years ago
> Also, Japan has a vocal far-right fringe, but the average Japanese person has no qualm with Koreans and Korean TV, music, food etc is widely popular.

And Israelis love Palestinian/Arab hummus. That feeling is not transitive to the Palestinian people.

> There are over 500,000 Koreans living in Japan, many 2nd or 3rd generation, and plenty more naturalized Japanese of Korean descent. If anything, I'd suspect there's a lot more antipathy in Korea towards Japan than the other way around...

Zainichi Koreans of any generation are not citizens and have limited rights in Japan, and can face widespread discrimination if they do not hide their identities/ancestry.

jpatokal · 7 years ago
> Zainichi Koreans of any generation are not citizens

That's a bit of a tautology: if they nationalize, which they can if they wish to, they become citizens and stop being counted as Zainichi. They're also granted a number of privileges (welfare, state pensions etc) as "Special Permanent Residents" not afforded to any other non-citizen residents, although they're still not to vote.

jpatokal commented on South Korean students flock to Japan   japantimes.co.jp/news/201... · Posted by u/Ultramanoid
sasaf5 · 7 years ago
Japan demands the issue to be "settled" or "forgotten" after mulling quick apologies. Imagine Germany demanding that the Holocaust be forgotten.
jpatokal · 7 years ago
Japan and South Korea signed an agreement in 1965 that was supposed to settle all financial claims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Basic_Relations_betw...

jpatokal commented on South Korean students flock to Japan   japantimes.co.jp/news/201... · Posted by u/Ultramanoid
theaustinseven · 7 years ago
Japan invaded the Korean peninsula as well as a sizeable portion of China and enacted horribly cruel war crimes against the citizens of those places. I won't get into details, but this comment would be akin to asking "What's the history between the Germans and Jews? Why don't they like each other?". The primary difference being that Germany had a reckoning with the history of what happened during that time, while the Japanese Government has mostly denied that any of its war crimes even happened which never allowed tensions to drop as much as they may have in Europe.
jpatokal · 7 years ago
Actually, Japan has apologized repeatedly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements...

However, Japan has more than its fair share of far-right fruitcakes who deny everything, and in both Korea and China politicians have found Japan to be a convenient whipping boy whenever they need a distraction from domestic problems.

jpatokal commented on South Korean students flock to Japan   japantimes.co.jp/news/201... · Posted by u/Ultramanoid
baolongtrann · 7 years ago
Have to admit I am clueless about the history between these two. Why don't they like each other?
jpatokal · 7 years ago
Historically, Korea was repeatedly invaded by Japan. More recently, Korea was a Japanese colony between 1910 and 1945, during which the Japanese ruled with an iron fist and did their best to destroy Korean identity by forcing people to take Japanese names etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan%E2%80%93Korea...

jpatokal commented on South Korean students flock to Japan   japantimes.co.jp/news/201... · Posted by u/Ultramanoid
thaumasiotes · 7 years ago
I don't get the "as birthrate sinks and unemployment climbs". It's not like Japan is doing well there.

And Japan is infamous for its incredibly negative attitude towards Koreans...

jpatokal · 7 years ago
Both countries have low birthrates, but Japan is far enough along the labor shortage curve that unemployment has been essentially eradicated in Japan. From the friendly article:

According to Statistics Korea, the national statistics office, the unemployment rate last year for people aged between 15 and 29 was 9.5 percent, compared with 3.8 percent overall and 3.6 percent for Japanese 15 to 24.

Also, Japan has a vocal far-right fringe, but the average Japanese person has no qualm with Koreans and Korean TV, music, food etc is widely popular. There are over 500,000 Koreans living in Japan, many 2nd or 3rd generation, and plenty more naturalized Japanese of Korean descent. If anything, I'd suspect there's a lot more antipathy in Korea towards Japan than the other way around...

jpatokal commented on China is blocking all language editions of Wikipedia   ooni.torproject.org/post/... · Posted by u/JayXon
saagarjha · 7 years ago
How’s the quality of the content as compared to Wikipedia’s?
jpatokal · 7 years ago
Variable, but generally worse. It's much more tightly censored than Wikipedia: for example, edits are manually reviewed by admins before going live. Also, most community features (talk pages etc) have been removed, so it's constantly gamed to push spam, copy pastes etc and the mods don't really care unless it touches a red line topic like politics.

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