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imaginationra commented on Drones will realize the promise of suicide terrorism   blog.exitgroup.us/p/cheap... · Posted by u/arrowsmith
mumbisChungo · 2 months ago
I am guessing the idea is ubiquity of prediction markets -> there's a prediction market for the liveness of everyone/anyone -> financial incentive to kill anyone

combined with the idea of the proliferation of local/personal violence

imaginationra · 2 months ago
Something like that- I'm an artist/creative and was working on a (Black mirrorish)story years back about this, thats were the thought comes from- a related ransom system would also be built into it- would create an offshoot of Defi known as DeathFi.
imaginationra commented on Drones will realize the promise of suicide terrorism   blog.exitgroup.us/p/cheap... · Posted by u/arrowsmith
OgsyedIE · 2 months ago
You aren't seriously suggesting that people will take out prediction market bets on people's death dates and then commit murder to rig the bet? How would a prediction market on anybody's death date get enough liquidity for this strategy to ever come close to breaking even?
imaginationra · 2 months ago
They've already used prediction markets to bet on peoples death as in the case of Sinwar from Hamas. It seems like all the pieces are there and moving into place- I'm just an artist/creative imagining things though(shrug)
imaginationra commented on Drones will realize the promise of suicide terrorism   blog.exitgroup.us/p/cheap... · Posted by u/arrowsmith
imaginationra · 2 months ago
Re: crypto and this "The collapsing institutional monopoly on violence will yield a renewal of local and personal violence, and a very messy working-out of a hierarchy suited to the new conditions."

If prediction markets come to act as proof of life oracles- which they already have in a few cases- things get very dark very fast for everyone I reckon.

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anigbrowl · 3 months ago
We cannot know without you potentially sharing PII on your case history or the details of your appeals process and what support avenues we have already explored. The company is not going to comment on that publicly and anone else who does is just going to be speculating or sympathy posting about their last bad customer service experience.

Since this is affecting your business, get legal advice, either from your business's regular lawyer (you have one, right?) or a consumer affairs lawyer. You are not going to get useful legal advice here. Nobody ever does, for the reasons outlined above.

imaginationra · 3 months ago
Thank you- I was just curious.
imaginationra commented on AI is not our future   procreate.com/ai... · Posted by u/alexharri
u5wbxrc3 · 3 months ago
If I as an artist make a great piece of art, you don't think I should be compensated for it. If I complete a surgery or drive a truck which all of them are byproducts of ideas and knowledge I should be compensated for them, not just for thinking of them. You see the problem here? I don't want to pay for an idea of art, I want the complete and original piece made by the artist. As for if they generate the art using some machine learning model, they need to disclose that so I can make conscious choice.
imaginationra · 3 months ago
Yes I do think we should be compensated for it, and we are- when we talk of compensation that usually refers to money- I'm referring to other forms of compensation-

I feel compensated on a spiritual level for my work- I do other things for money and my art can stay "pure" in a sense-

It's said that if you "sell your soul" you are unable to ever "buy it back"- so why sell it in the first place? Just so you can try to get "rich" and attempt to buy it back later because you are soulless and miserable? Doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe art is something higher? A higher cause? I was really inspired by the Rudolf Steiner book "The arts and their mission" early in my career- worth looking into if you are in the arts.

imaginationra commented on AI is not our future   procreate.com/ai... · Posted by u/alexharri
almostdeadguy · 3 months ago
The "just a tool like any other" perspective can't account for how much talentless slop is in practice created by AI.

Look at the work spotlighted by Google to promote their new Flow tool: https://x.com/GoogleLabs/status/1925596282661327073 . This is a garbage imitation of a Guy Ritchie film or a Jose Cuervo ad (maybe more the latter).

Instead of being a tool for creatives it has empowered a number of grifters to churn out more and more "content" bypassing any concern about craft and formal restrictions that help generate creative work. The work that is most often created with the help of AI is not creative, it's a bland, tasteless simulacrum of creativity.

imaginationra · 3 months ago
For filmmakers- smart phones + cheap video cameras + free video editors + youtube monetization create what from my perspective is human made content slop. So to me slop is slop- it doesn't matter if a machine or a human "made" it. It's all slop and it all sucks haha.

Grifters will always grift- curation is what is important to sort through and ignore the slop- maybe there will be some systems with special fingerprinting algo's to "find" original human made non slop?

imaginationra commented on AI is not our future   procreate.com/ai... · Posted by u/alexharri
rollcat · 3 months ago
The capabilities are interesting and useful, but the wider practical impact is that we're already being flooded with cheap cookie-cutter slop, while original artists' copyrights are completely disregarded.

If you're building tools to empower artists, this is antithetic to your mission, and simply unethical.

imaginationra · 3 months ago
I do agree with the original artists work being disregarded but I think that has more to do with the aggregation and the lack of curation that is not motivated by $- as an unknown artist creating original work for 20+ years I'm optimistic about permission-less donation supported AI curators digging up unknown creative works and sharing them with humans.
imaginationra commented on AI is not our future   procreate.com/ai... · Posted by u/alexharri
intended · 3 months ago
> AI to generate ideas we're good

Why is that the line in the sand? And if someone did find inspiration and ideas from an AI, and made something popular with it, wouldn’t it be indistinguishable from any other piece of popular content?

imaginationra · 3 months ago
Sure- as the AI is trained on the work of humans- so if someone had an idea "inspired by ai" its really just saying they were inspired by humans anyway- for me personally I'll never ask an LLM for "ideas" though-
imaginationra commented on AI is not our future   procreate.com/ai... · Posted by u/alexharri
u5wbxrc3 · 3 months ago
> I see the "theft" as being democratized now- large studios/entities with large resources have always been able to legally "steal" so with these AI tools I guess we all can now?

You don't see any issue with machine learning models trained on huge amounts of copyrighted and patented materials basically scraped from the internet. Yes you can make your animated film and audio but at the cost of hugely controversial and non-transparent generative models.

> Aesthetics are dead now imo because of generative AI as anyone can be any "style" so now it is all about ideas- original human ideas.

This argument kind of conflicts with itself, no? Aesthetics are inferred from ideas either inspired or original.

imaginationra · 3 months ago
No I don't see it as theft- in that I choose to not be a part of the formal film industry- I don't "monetize" any of my work- I have nothing that can be stolen but my aesthetics- but aesthetics are dead imo- they no longer have value- as an artist my ideas are what is valuable- and no ML/AI etc can "steal" my ideas as I haven't thought of them yet- my art and ideas are an expression of my soul- no machine will ever have a soul so I'm not threatened one bit my Ai etc

u/imaginationra

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