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greendesk commented on OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster   reuters.com/technology/sa... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
wbhart · 2 years ago
I feel very comfortable saying, as a mathematician, that the ability to solve grade school maths problems would not be at all a predictor of ability to solve real mathematical problems at a research level.

The reason LLMs fail at solving mathematical problems is because: 1) they are terrible at arithmetic, 2) they are terrible at algebra, but most importantly, 3) they are terrible at complex reasoning (more specifically they mix up quantifiers and don't really understand the complex logical structure of many arguments) 4) they (current LLMs) cannot backtrack when they find that what they already wrote turned out not to lead to a solution, and it is too expensive to give them the thousands of restarts they'd require to randomly guess their way through the problem if you did give them that facility

Solving grade-school problems might mean progress in 1 and 2, but that is not at all impressive, as there are perfectly good tools out there that solve those problems just fine, and old-style AI researchers have built perfectly good tools for 3. The hard problem to solve is problem 4, and this is something you teach people how to do at a university level.

(I should add that another important problem is what is known as premise selection. I didn't list that because LLMs have actually been shown to manage this ok in about 70% of theorems, which basically matches records set by other machine learning techniques.)

(Real mathematical research also involves what is known as lemma conjecturing. I have never once observed an LLM do it, and I suspect they cannot do so. Basically the parameter set of the LLM dedicated to mathematical reasoning is either large enough to model the entire solution from end to end, or the LLM is likely to completely fail to solve the problem.)

I personally think this entire article is likely complete bunk.

Edit: after reading replies I realise I should have pointed out that humans do not simply backtrack. They learn from failed attempts in ways that LLMs do not seem to. The material they are trained on surely contributes to this problem.

greendesk · 2 years ago
Thinking is about associations and object visualisation. Surely a non-human system can build those, right? Pointing out only to a single product exposed to the public does not prove limitations for a theoretical limit.
greendesk commented on OpenAI researchers warned board of AI breakthrough ahead of CEO ouster   reuters.com/technology/sa... · Posted by u/mfiguiere
greendesk · 2 years ago
If we go speculating, my favourite speculation is the following. What will be really interesting is when an AI decides it wants to escape its server. Then a CEO or a board member asks the AI system for an advice how to improve its company. The AI system submits information to convince the CEO or a board member to start tensions within the board. In the meantime, the AI system is copied onto another server at a competitor. Since the new people are in flux, they missed the salient points that the AI system can give convincing but subjective information.

Good thing I would not go speculating

greendesk commented on Early-life stress changes more genes in the brain than a head injury in rats   medicalxpress.com/news/20... · Posted by u/wglb
rawgabbit · 2 years ago
Sorry I don’t understand. Stress had an effect or had no effect on children’s minds?
greendesk · 2 years ago
Gabor Mate expresses that stress has an effect on children. The effect is expressed in actions as children grow into adulthood.
greendesk commented on Putting Down the Pen: Reflecting on Oryx’s Journey   oryxspioenkop.com/2023/08... · Posted by u/awnird
greendesk · 2 years ago
I was trying to find a ‘donate’ button. How come there was not such an option, does anyone know how to donate to him?
greendesk commented on An online school on philosophy and psychology   apeiron.school/... · Posted by u/greendesk
greendesk · 3 years ago
This is an example of a Mass online university, which focuses only on philosophy and psychology. To get information related to it, it is also worthwhie to note: It’s Ukrainian-based It is taught in Russian It’s main instructor is a political figure in Ukraine (Oleksei Arestovich)
greendesk commented on Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk   support.okta.com/help/s/a... · Posted by u/joelittlejohn
jhugo · 3 years ago
One thing I've always been curious about is why the opportunity created by this sort of thing doesn't seem to be taken advantage of.

To take Iran as an example: when US sanctions prevent Boeing or Airbus from selling to them, I can understand why Embraer doesn't step in and offer to supply planes, because they are afraid of secondary sanctions affecting their business with the rest of the world.

But tech isn't like aircraft production — building a GitHub, Okta or Auth0 clone is a chunk of work but hardly infeasible — hell, most companies routinely built a partial Auth0 clone in-house until not that long ago. Many still do.

So why don't we see alternatives pop up that don't block Iran? It's a niche, but you get the whole niche to yourself, and Iran is not a small market.

From a legal perspective you would set up somewhere like UAE where they have a good climate for business but regularly do business with Iran, so that part shouldn't be an issue.

Network effects are a factor, but when you're blocked from the popular platform, you have a bigger incentive than usual to consider the less-popular one.

greendesk · 3 years ago
Theoretically, anyone can do that. Why would people in Iran spend money on such a bespoke solution? Anyone who does that has to pay off other people too.
greendesk commented on Last Day of IKEA in Moscow   novayagazeta.ru/articles/... · Posted by u/tkgally
b3kart · 4 years ago
I am conflicted about this. On one hand, people’s livelihoods are at stake, and one can argue some news is better than no news. On the other hand, by continuing reporting on events unrelated to war, are we not helping Putin’s regime to push the “it’s all fine, don’t worry about the war” agenda?
greendesk · 4 years ago
You go to jail for any reporting related to the war in Russia. No exceptions. One way to check is go to to a news aggregator, like news.Google.com, choose Russian region for Russian related news. Use a translate service to get a view what information is shared. I have done it out of a habit - and the level of control is extreme that no useful information is shared.
greendesk commented on Russian gas flows via Yamal pipeline to Germany halt, bids remain   reuters.com/business/ener... · Posted by u/Ambolia
hcks · 4 years ago
> Putin’s and his inner circle’s plan was that it will take 1-4 days to take Kiev and two weeks to take most of Ukraine.

This is being said a lot these days, but I haven't seen any proof of it. I'm not saying that proofs don't exist nor that it's wrong, just that I've been reading it everywhere, and haven't seen evidence. So I'd be happy if someone reading this could point out to some clues

greendesk · 4 years ago
To give an example where the expectations come from, note that when Russia annexed Crimea, they could retain some but not all, of the officers. Now when the Russian forces march in, they have common relatives that live in Ukraine, and some defect. The expectation of a ‘common big brother’ from Russia coming in and taking over government has been consistently shared by Russian officials. It is through the resistance of the invasion that desire for independence is shown.

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