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fandorin commented on Ask HN: Those making $500/month on side projects in 2025 – Show and tell    · Posted by u/cvbox
postatic · 7 days ago
I run SideProjectors - https://www.sideprojectors.com - a marketplace where people can buy/sell their side projects and businesses. I've been running it for over 14 years now.
fandorin · 7 days ago
interesting! how is it going? what’s the average price tag for such projects?
fandorin commented on As 'Dorian Gray' ages, its relevance only grows   washingtonpost.com/books/... · Posted by u/apollinaire
baxtr · a month ago
Now everyone including me wants to know your top 4!
fandorin · a month ago
yes! I’m interested as well!
fandorin commented on Meta's Broken API: How Facebook Is Killing Small Developer Innovation    · Posted by u/Jvit
fandorin · 2 months ago
this text looks like LLM-generated…
fandorin commented on Ask HN: Is anybody running a successful non-subscription business?    · Posted by u/fandorin
bruce511 · 2 months ago
In the beginning we sold a product for a one-time fee. Every couple of years we'd release a (paid for) upgrade. The market was young, new features were obvious.

The company was funded by "new sales". Development, support, admin etc was all funded by sales.

As our customers grew, so our costs grew. Support goes up, so fine, we'll offer support contracts. But users typically don't sign up for these (but call support anyway and get pissed if we blow them off, or bill them.)

We make "updates" and sell those. But to do that we must "add features" (customers expect all bug fixes to be free forever). Adding features which offer true value becomes harder. Upgrade sales drop off, but now we have lots of different versions in the field.

Obviously sales plateaus at some point. The list of people receiving value goes up, the potential market gets smaller.

In short, the source of revenue and the receivers of value are disconnected. This is not sustainable. You are one or two bad sales months from closing up shop.

The optimal strategy for this business model is to find the sales peak, terminate all support, and accumulate as much from residual sales as possible.

We switched to a subscription model. Now those receiving value (updates, fixes, support, training, features etc) pay a known amount at a known time. We can budget, they can budget. If sales disappear current development and support can continue. (Aka Covid). Income and expenses are aligned.

We sell to business not consumers. While consumers might not like subscriptions, businesses love them. They allow for much simpler procurement (no sudden support or upgrade bills), assurance of longevity, reduced capital costs upfront.

We can grow headcount based on known income. We can grow sustainably without requiring sales to match.

Subscriptions work because the match income to expenses. Those who receive value pay for it in a sustainable way. It's as simple as that.

fandorin · 2 months ago
Thanks for your detailed response. I agree with what you wrote. But the key part is: "We sell to business not consumers." --> My product is not business-oriented. Probably there is a small % of businesses that use it but it's definitely not a majority (at least not right now). If I had a B2B product I would just do a subscription without thinking too much.
fandorin commented on Ask HN: Is anybody running a successful non-subscription business?    · Posted by u/fandorin
nicbou · 2 months ago
I earn affiliate income on https://allaboutberlin.com. It allows me to help far more people by keeping everything free. It's been my main source of income for a few years now.

AI is changing the game - it halved my traffic - but so far it's still survivable. I intend to keep going until it's no longer tenable.

fandorin · 2 months ago
Cool! Did AI halve your income as well? Or did it just affect the traffic (low quality traffic)?
fandorin commented on Ask HN: Is anybody running a successful non-subscription business?    · Posted by u/fandorin
keiferski · 2 months ago
Pretty much every major software company has monthly plans. Even apps are becoming monthly, when they were once single payment.

Where are you seeing single payments become prominent in software?

fandorin · 2 months ago
That's my feeling as well. I wonder who says that SAAS is dying.
fandorin commented on Ask HN: Is anybody running a successful non-subscription business?    · Posted by u/fandorin
skwee357 · 2 months ago
Define successful.

I run a SaaS that relies on one time payment. The income currently covers all the expenses, and leaves me some nice pocket money.

Is this model for everyone? No. The unique proposition of my service is actually the one time payment aspect. Does everything should be subscription? No. I avoid subscriptions as much as possible, unless there is a cost involved in running the service.

So YMMV. I wouldn’t pay a subscription for a MacOS app, unless there is an ongoing operational cost for the developer.

Feel free to email me (profile -> website) if you want to chat.

fandorin · 2 months ago
Awesome, thanks, I will reach out!
fandorin commented on Ask HN: Is anybody running a successful non-subscription business?    · Posted by u/fandorin
csomar · 2 months ago
> Is there no point in having a one-time fee product?

You can have one-time licenses but updates require another license (ie: discounted). It is the same model of SaaS but with a different payment plan.

Unlimited/lifetime licenses are a way to either deliver a really bad product or create an unsustainable company.

fandorin · 2 months ago
Well I guess this is the way forward for me.

u/fandorin

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