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evanextreme commented on People Are Being Involuntarily Committed After Spiraling into ChatGPT Psychosis   futurism.com/commitment-j... · Posted by u/cainxinth
visarga · 6 months ago
> By the medium directly engaging with the person

and

> Even though there's no person in the loop

contradict each other. There is always a person in the loop, and the LLM is actually reacting to their messages, however wrong it turns out. They could have chosen a positive interaction instead. The LLM reflects back what the human puts in.

evanextreme · 6 months ago
Sorry, should have clarified. By "no person in the loop" I meant from the side of the language model itself. The person is interacting with a thing which produces content for it, and the only person engaged in that process is the person consuming the content.
evanextreme commented on People Are Being Involuntarily Committed After Spiraling into ChatGPT Psychosis   futurism.com/commitment-j... · Posted by u/cainxinth
pixl97 · 6 months ago
There are people that send the vast majority of the money they make to televangelists who are not speaking to them 'directly' and yet those individuals would tell you said speaker is communicating directly with them.

This is how a lot of propaganda over the radio and TV works.

evanextreme · 6 months ago
Great point, actually. In many respects these language models doing this could be similar to how YouTube used to platform Alex Jones before removing him. Regardless, I still believe its the responsibility of the creators of these models to work on mitigations
evanextreme commented on People Are Being Involuntarily Committed After Spiraling into ChatGPT Psychosis   futurism.com/commitment-j... · Posted by u/cainxinth
im3w1l · 6 months ago
A key question I think is whether these models can be made safer for mentally ill without cutting into utility for the healthy. Is the danger inherent to this technology, or is it incidental?

And here I think we are fortunate that there doesn't seem to be tradeoff.

evanextreme · 6 months ago
Agreed here. My personal opinion is that this is fixable, but it would require reinforcement into the models that counteract the sycophantic stickiness that most companies use to drive engagement, so it won't really ever be a priority.
evanextreme commented on People Are Being Involuntarily Committed After Spiraling into ChatGPT Psychosis   futurism.com/commitment-j... · Posted by u/cainxinth
RadiozRadioz · 6 months ago
With any tech this engaging and real-seeming, there is bound to be a very small percentage of people with dormant mental health issues who are predisposed to have extremely negative reactions. I can totally see how a hallucinating human-sounding chatbot could be the trigger paranoia/obsession in some people.

I don't think there's something inherently wrong with the technology. Mental stability is a bell curve; the majority of people are "normal", but there will always be an unfortunate subset who can react like this to strange new stimuli, through no fault of their own. It's no different to people getting unhealthily hooked on TV/smartphones and driven into conspiracies.

evanextreme · 6 months ago
I disagree, because the television was never talking back to you. By the medium directly engaging with the person, the responsibility / enablement of this issue is more on the company than previous non interactive mediums. It would be like if a movie caused psychosis in people, and the sequel doubled down / enabled that. Even though there's no person (besides the consumer) in the loop, there is responsibility to train these systems to reduce the amount of these cases.
evanextreme commented on End of 10: Upgrade your old Windows 10 computer to Linux   endof10.org/... · Posted by u/doener
omnimus · 6 months ago
Which in particular? Many online games run fine.
evanextreme · 6 months ago
areweanticheatyet.com has a good list
evanextreme commented on Apple's Liquid Glass is prep work for AR interfaces, not just a design refresh   omc345.substack.com/p/fro... · Posted by u/lightningcable
xnx · 6 months ago
Also, no evidence that Liquid Glass isn't a bad UI for AR too.

John Carmack writes:

Translucent UI is usually a bad idea outside of movies and non-critical game interfaces.

The early moments of joy are fleeting, while the usability issues remain. Windows and Mac have both been down this road before, but I guess a new generation of designers needs to learn the lessons anew. Sigh.

All of the same issues apply in AR as well. Outside of movies, people do not work out their thoughts on windowpanes or transparent “whiteboards” because of the exact same legibility issues.

Would you prefer a notebook of white sheets, or hundreds of different blurry image backgrounds?

https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1932521605340483607

evanextreme · 6 months ago
As a visionOS user (somewhat) what is so funny about all of this is that the translucency effects in visionOS are significantly toned down compared to liquid glass for this specific reason. The glass is heavily diffused, you can maybe get an idea of what is behind (a person moving, a television thats turned on) but nothing even close to the level that I have experienced in the iPadOS beta

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evanextreme commented on Convert Linux to Windows   philipbohun.com/blog/0007... · Posted by u/pbohun
evanextreme · 9 months ago
To add some validity here, I think to an extent we already see distributions aimed at converting Windows users moving in this direction. Zorin OS has Wine support for .exe's almost out of the box, and there's Steam OS / Proton, where (if I recall correctly) the official guidelines for the Steam Deck state that developers should NOT create native Linux ports for new games, but rather optimize around Proton itself.
evanextreme commented on Show HN: LLM plays Pokémon (open sourced)   github.com/adenta/fire_re... · Posted by u/adenta
evanextreme · 10 months ago
Was working on a similar thing last year! Might as well open source at this point too.
evanextreme commented on Why the Guardian is no longer posting on X   theguardian.com/media/202... · Posted by u/Jimmc414
rs_rs_rs_rs_rs · a year ago
Went to Bluesky too, at the moment too much "orange man bad" and not really anything else in Discover. At least on Twitter you can still find some nice technical discussion after you weed out the "orange man good" parts.
evanextreme · a year ago
I highly recommend taking a look at some tech starter packs, as i've found them to be very helpful in moving away from that feed. I agree that the political discussion is definitely still in that stage though

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