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euyyn commented on Chrome, the perfect antitrust villain? alexdanco.com/2019/05/30/... · Posted by u/rargulati

vkou · 7 years ago

> Facebook, Google Search and Chrome, the most discussed products in current antitrust discussions all have viable quality alternatives.

What is a quality alternative to Facebook? Diaspora was DOA, Mastodon is a cesspit, Twitter is nothing like Facebook, and G+ is long-dead.

euyyn · 7 years ago

My understanding is all kids moved to Instagram / Snapchat as soon as parents started using Facebook too, and now parents are on Instagram too so I expect kids are already using something else.

euyyn commented on Chrome, the perfect antitrust villain? alexdanco.com/2019/05/30/... · Posted by u/rargulati

joshAg · 7 years ago

The unfair barrier to entry is that in order to compete at making a browser the competitor has to build much, much more than just a browser. The fact that it was apple that was successful in building an also-ran competitor isn't helpful for google, because Apple's size allows other companies to argue that unless they are as large as google or apple, they cannot compete at all, which means new or smaller players can't fairly compete.

If the goal is to build a browser, then everything else (the alternative ecosystem, the alternative OS, the alternative hardware, the custom chips for the hardware, etc.) not required for the actual browser is waste. That's the exact opposite of efficiency.

The issue isn't chrome's ecosystem. The issue is that Chrome is being used to create unfair barriers of entry for Chrome competitors which then allows Google to use Chrome to harm consumers because there are limited competitors for consumers to switch to.

euyyn · 7 years ago

Can people use or license Apple's version of DRM instead?

euyyn commented on Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google wsj.com/articles/justice-... · Posted by u/Despegar

el_programmador · 7 years ago

On that note, even Internet Explorer (IE) was bundled freely, Microsoft never charged a dime for it. Why was anti-trust pursued against Microsoft then?

Honestly, I see no difference between that scenario and this. If anything, Google has been a lot more guilty than for just monopolizing on a browser here.

euyyn · 7 years ago

> Why was anti-trust pursued against Microsoft then?

One example among the many things the court found they did was to tell OEMs that they wouldn't license Windows to them if they _also_ included Netscape preinstalled in their computers.

The stated purpose, from internal emails, was to prevent Java from becoming the de-facto API for writing applications, which at the time was win32. This was a gigantic barrier of entry that protected Windows' monopoly and they did all those shady things to keep it raised.

euyyn commented on S/MIME Version 4.0 Message Specification tools.ietf.org/html/rfc85... · Posted by u/okket

microcolonel · 7 years ago

The original document is preformatted monospace text, so a preformatted block is the only way to display it without a lot of effort to rejoin the lines and separate them into paragraph breaks (so that HN won't combine them inappropriately).

euyyn · 7 years ago

No need to rejoin the lines, as HN will combine them as you say. Only need to add a new line before each bullet point.

euyyn commented on Zircon Fair Scheduler fuchsia.googlesource.com/... · Posted by u/return_0e

coreytabaka · 7 years ago

No, that's based on the deprecated multi-level round-robin scheduler, which we find tremendously amusing. :)

euyyn · 7 years ago

Who's "we"?

euyyn commented on Show HN: Xmake, a modern C/C++ build utility github.com/xmake-io/xmake... · Posted by u/waruqi

tele_ski · 7 years ago

Hermetic Builds. ... Our builds are hermetic, meaning that they are insensitive to the libraries and other software installed on the build machine. Instead, builds depend on known versions of build tools, such as compilers, and dependencies, such as libraries.

Kind of like a container for building? I had to look it up myself.

euyyn · 7 years ago

That, and also insensitive to builds you might have done of other versions of the source code, etc. I.e. it's not affected by "files left behind" that would require you to do a clean build and lose incrementality.

euyyn commented on Show HN: Xmake, a modern C/C++ build utility github.com/xmake-io/xmake... · Posted by u/waruqi

euyyn · 7 years ago

Does it produce hermetic builds?

euyyn commented on Android users in Europe will be asked which browser and search engine they want blog.google/around-the-gl... · Posted by u/_jgvg

Dylan16807 · 7 years ago

Specifically every link they every clicked on, on every web site.

Yes some fraction of this was on google. That's not cheating. No content from google was transmitted back to Bing. Just the next site the users went to. Is Bing supposed to go through the logs looking for visits to google and then delete the rest of the session because it might indirectly reveal something about what existed on the google page?

I should own my records about what pages I go to, not Google. If I share them with Bing it's nobody else's business.

euyyn · 7 years ago

> every link they every clicked on, on every web site. [...] No content from google was transmitted back to Bing. Just the next site the users went to.

Your theory cannot explain how Bing associated that "next site" with the specific search term the user had entered in Google.

If you had clicked a link on HackerNews, it wouldn't have shown up in Bing under some random search phrase. It's obvious that Microsoft parsed the search query out of the google.com URL, and the only reason why you'd do that is to mine what results were being presented for each search query.

euyyn commented on Java 12 jdk.java.net/12/... · Posted by u/kalimatas

zmmmmm · 7 years ago

It's fascinating reading a post like this because I feel exactly the same from the opposite perspective.

I feel bad for people trying to write in other languages and manually re-inventing dozens of features the JVM ecosystem just gives you for free. In many ways, the whole container-push has been essentially people trying to achieve what the JVM already gave you (isolation, cross platform, etc etc). I still don't see anything equivalent that doesn't impose huge burdens of complexity (which java does have but it's a known quantity with two decades of maturity).

euyyn · 7 years ago

> the whole container-push has been essentially people trying to achieve what the JVM already gave you (isolation, cross platform, etc etc)

Google did containers in Borg many years ago, and many of its servers are written in Java.