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defaultprimate commented on I asked GPT-NeoX-20B a hundred arithmetic questions   twitter.com/moyix/status/... · Posted by u/nandhinianand
jquery · 4 years ago
Imho, not a matter of "if" but "when". I'm convinced that it will be a future civil rights battle, with young people largely on the "AI has rights" side and old people largely on the "AI has no rights" side.
defaultprimate · 4 years ago
Then you grossly misunderstand how far along AI is. AGI is not even a remote possibility with current techniques and implementations (and I would contest, entirely impossible with digital logic). It's just massive amount of statistics that were computationally impossible given available hardware until recently.

We don't have a baseline understanding of consciousness or intuition to a degree that we could even begin to replicate it.

defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
defaultprimate · 4 years ago
>Hahaha! You have to be joking?

Which modern, high quality of life, non capitalist countries are less harmful to the environment?

>You have no scruples at all do you? "No insight into" then you go on avoiding the point and just falsely suggesting that I said something I didn't say (treating all historical North American societies as one, which is ridiculous), what a deeply dishonest thing to write, shame on you.

What was your point then? You were leveraging some native American sentiments and factually incorrect popular myths on their beliefs about property ownership to contend falsely that they had better economic systems devoid of profit motive or property.

>I won't be wasting energy on replies that have zero prospect of breaking through that dogma. I can see others have tried with no success.

The irony coming from someone with entirely unsourced, repeatedly demonstrably false assertions, while I have provided endless examples and sources.

Sorry, not sorry for sticking to my well researched and verbosely sources principles and reasoning because random strangers on the internet regurgitate easily countered dogma from ideologues and propagandists.

I can tell you exactly what evidence would look like that would change my mind about any topic I hold strong beliefs about. Meanwhile you can't even stick to one topic.

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defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
croon · 4 years ago
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defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
cloudfifty · 4 years ago
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defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
defaultprimate · 4 years ago
Cool, what does that have to do with the verifiable facts about who he was as a person and the role they played in his writings and philosophy?
defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
cloudfifty · 4 years ago
> considering Marx was a literal man child

I must ask. Why, according to you, was he a "literal man child"?

defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
croon · 4 years ago
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defaultprimate commented on Texas power crisis revealed flaw in market’s design   news.cornell.edu/stories/... · Posted by u/PaulHoule
croon · 4 years ago
> No, they did it because they viewed "others" as less than human, or less deserving of dignity and respect, no different than a beast of burden. Slavery predates capitalism by millennia, so viewing others this way clearly doesn't share a causative relationship with capitalism. To contend that capitalism caused slavery is absurd. It's the only economic system in history that resulted in the enduring abolition of slavery. Modern, alternative economic systems still devolve into utilizing slavery to this very day.

Darwinism predates "Darwinism". Yours is not an argument.

People traded before states existed.

Rational actors didn't appear at the date when the model description of capitalism was defined. People kept slaves because they could (obviously). We can argue that they either did this for profit or for laughs. I know what I'd bet.

> You should also read George Fitzhugh, the most prominent representative of anti abolitionist plantation owners. He was a staunch anti-capitalist specifically because the moral framework it is built on humanized black people and this sentiment was a primary driver in the abolitionist movement. Capitalists and abolitionists were extremely closely associated during the abolitionist movement.

"We treat the Abolitionists and Socialists as identical, because they are notoriously the same people, employing the same arguments and bent on the same schemes. Abolition is the first step in Socialism: the former proposes to abolish negro slavery, the latter all kinds of slavery - religion, government, marriage, families, property - nay, human nature itself. Yet the former contains the germ of the latter, and very soon ripens into it; Abolition is Socialism in its infancy." - George Fitzhugh

> > Maximizing rights and freedoms on the macro scale means limiting some people's edge freedoms on the micro scale.

> No it doesn't. It means preventing others from stepping on universal freedoms of others, which is exactly the philosophical foundations of private property.

Meaning someone enforces your right to property from someone else having a different idea of freedoms.

You're not contradicting me. We can only have rights and freedoms by collectively agreeing where those limits are, and enforcing them as a society. That's what laws and regulations do.

defaultprimate · 4 years ago
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