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cld8483 commented on Suspect, victim in Redmond stabbing both worked at Microsoft   komonews.com/news/local/m... · Posted by u/trynewideas
dragonwriter · 2 years ago
> where unconditional support for Israel among white evangelical protestants is more popular than in the Jewish-American community itself?

Dominionist support for Israel can easily coexist with (arguably, is grounded in) anti-Semitism, and non-Dominionist right-wing support for Israel is often more grounded in Islamophobia than positive feelings about Jewish people, and is itself compatible with anti-Semitism.

Support for Israel when it comes to American foreign policy doesn’t mean positive, or even neutral, treatment of Jewish people, particularly those immediately present around the Israel-supporter.

cld8483 · 2 years ago
The wacky derivations of their beliefs doesn't change the fact that most businesses in red states would kick you straight out the door for antisemitism or any criticism of Israel. Anti-semitism is far outside the mainstream anywhere in the country you choose. The closest you'll find to mainstream overt antisemitism is probably Idaho, but even there it is very fringe. You'll be hard pressed to even find a church that accuses Jews of killing Christ, while a century ago this was common doctrine. The American public at large no longer tolerate this sort of thought.
cld8483 commented on Canada starts investigating TikTok over data collection from young users   firstpost.com/world/canad... · Posted by u/elorant
cld8483 · 2 years ago
This app should have been banned from both appstores when it was found to be exfiltrating all clipboard data. Insane that it's still permitted by Apple and Google after such an obvious display of malevolence.
cld8483 commented on Suspect, victim in Redmond stabbing both worked at Microsoft   komonews.com/news/local/m... · Posted by u/trynewideas
popcalc · 2 years ago
>Plenty of people have done or said insensitive stuff, especially when young, without being violent or mentally ill. Also we don’t really know anything about this particular case.

What differentiates boys like this from plain bigots is they think they can put it next to their resume. A gut feeling is all you need to tell. It's the "quiet kid in class" energy.

>The other option you mention is they perhaps grew up in a red state? Do you suggest this as a legitimate reason for firing a person?

I was suggesting that being around accepted hate may make one feel more comfortable putting this thing out there.

cld8483 · 2 years ago
> What differentiates boys like this from plain bigots is they think they can put it next to their resume.

Yes, if they hand you the evidence then it should be obvious.

> A gut feeling is all you need to tell. It's the "quiet kid in class" energy.

If they handed you the evidence, then you don't need a "gut feeling", which is nothing more than a manifestation of your personal biases.

cld8483 commented on Suspect, victim in Redmond stabbing both worked at Microsoft   komonews.com/news/local/m... · Posted by u/trynewideas
cld8483 · 2 years ago
> Or just live in a red state?

Heh, in red states where unconditional support for Israel among white evangelical protestants is more popular than in the Jewish-American community itself? Where every other car seems to have a bumper sticker featuring the Israeli and American flag depicted together in unison? Hating Jewish people is very fringe in any American state, the mainstream will ostracize you for it anywhere in the country. Obviously so in blue states, but also in red states as well. Speaking out against Israel is a good way to get yourself banned from most red state businesses, and as many red states as blue states have passed anti-BDS laws.

cld8483 commented on Suspect, victim in Redmond stabbing both worked at Microsoft   komonews.com/news/local/m... · Posted by u/trynewideas
l_theanine · 2 years ago
I find it unlikely that somebody randomly shanks someone a dozen times just because of stress, in a workplace environment.

Surely these two gentleman either knew each other and something had happened, OR the attacker knew the victim and there was some sort of issue, romantic or something like that to where he would've been angry enough to try and kill this other man.

Of course Microsoft is going to say "Oh, they didn't work with each other or know each other as far as we know, this is just a crazy thing that happened" because they want to be left out of this as much as possible. Which is probably fine. I doubt the MS Teams experience is bad enough to kill over, bad as it may be.

cld8483 · 2 years ago
> "just because of stress"

Where is that narrative coming from? It doesn't seem to be what the article is pushing.

The perp seems like a nutjob who had a violent melt down, no need for a grander narrative. This sort of thing happens thousands of times a year all across the country, the only reason this case is on HN is because of who they worked for. If this were about a Redmond retail worker stabbing another, in the same town, it wouldn't be here.

cld8483 commented on Lab leak most likely origin of Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. agency now says   wsj.com/articles/covid-or... · Posted by u/cainxinth
cc101 · 2 years ago
How can they tell the difference between a lab leak and a deliberate release to explore the world's reaction to a viral weapon?
cld8483 · 2 years ago
You can tell the difference by looking to see if any of their research helped in developing the vaccine (it did not.)
cld8483 commented on Lab leak most likely origin of Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. agency now says   wsj.com/articles/covid-or... · Posted by u/cainxinth
ethanbond · 2 years ago
You’re already seeing that exact type of confusion strewn about this comment section.

Some people interpreting “lab leak” to mean deliberately designed, others to mean deliberately released, others to mean an accident involving a natural research virus.

So yeah this whole conversation will continue to go nowhere because in reality it is full of conspiracy theorists who make the conversation impossible to have.

cld8483 · 2 years ago
The research out of this lab didn't help develop the vaccine, so what were they doing in the first place? Weapons research, it's as simple as that. As soon as the virus started circulating through the public, that was their chance to shine! They could have released everything they knew and jump-started vaccine development.. but they didn't. They covered it up, because fighting bugs was never their interest in the first place.

Why should anybody believe otherwise? Principle of charity? Please.

cld8483 commented on Lab leak most likely origin of Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. agency now says   wsj.com/articles/covid-or... · Posted by u/cainxinth
michaelgrosner2 · 2 years ago
I'm not sure what world you're living in but we've been shooting missiles at Chinese military objects and restricting their access to semiconductors. I have little doubt that if the CIA or FBI had information it was actually a Chinese plot they would have released it by now.
cld8483 · 2 years ago
> I'm not sure what world you're living in but we've been shooting missiles at Chinese military objects

Only after several days of failing to resolve the balloon matter diplomatically. Shooting it down was not their first resort, and that's probably because diplomatic considerations with China were being weighed against the domestic political situation. When the diplomatic situation can be kept relatively smooth and normal by keeping the public in the dark, that's the 'rational' choice.

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cld8483 commented on Lab leak most likely origin of Covid-19 pandemic, U.S. agency now says   wsj.com/articles/covid-or... · Posted by u/cainxinth
credit_guy · 2 years ago
The only reason to not say it was a lab leak is to avoid embarrassing those responsible, China first and America second.

But little by little people will start accepting that.

What should the consequences be? At the very least a tightening of the controls around labs doing bio research. Of course, this amounts to nothing if someone is allowed to outsource research to labs in countries that don't follow the stringent procedures. So, anybody who does such outsourcing shares the full responsibility if things go wrong.

What about Covid itself? China and America need to provide reparations. How much? Clearly in the trillions, maybe double digit trillions.

How about those who obstructed the investigations? I think they should face justice, and it's not unreasonable to expect that some would go to prison for their obstructions.

Both in China and America? For sure in America, where the arm of justice has a long reach. In China, if Xi wants a well functioning Party, yes, he should sent those who obstructed to jail, for if he tolerates that, his Party will go in decay.

cld8483 · 2 years ago
> What should the consequences be?

The abolition of modern virology, roll the clock back on them a hundred years. Allow the development of vaccines for extant viruses, but completely ban all Dr Frankenstein activities with viruses. No more "invent a virus in a lab to beat nature to the punch" horse shit, with is flagrant weapons development under the cover of civilian research. As soon as the virus started circulating through the population, did these researchers share their knowledge and help develop a vaccine? No, they buried their involvement and covered up everything they knew. They were no help at all, and never intended to be. Burn their books which describe how it is done, and silence the people who already understand it with the threat of criminal imprisonment for sharing their knowledge. Encourage major religions to amend their rules with strong taboos against this research, and institute harsh economic sanctions against any nation that doesn't participate in this ban.

Does this seem extreme? It shouldn't. This field of research has the power to kill billions and no demonstrable upside. It is even more dangerous than nuclear weapons; because at least a technician at a nuclear weapon production facility would be hard pressed to release his work on the global public of his own initiative. Smuggling a virus out of any lab is trivial, all it takes is a single madman's willingness to sacrifice himself as patient zero.

We're the villagers in an "evil wizard" scenario. The wizards have been meddling in dangerous forces beyond the understanding of common people, and it's getting people killed. The solution is to storm the wizard's tower and throw the wizards off the top of it.

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