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boffinism commented on Ampersand (2015)   haggardhawksblog.blogspot... · Posted by u/alex_young
kgwgk · 3 years ago
Is there any reason to believe so?

Maybe it’s you who is missing what’s going on.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-ampersand

& was named ampersand in the context of rattling off the letters of the alphabet in English: “double-you ex wye izzard/zed, and”.

“… And what?”

“And, on its own, and” (and, per se, and).

With “and” named in English, because this was an English rattling off of the alphabet.

boffinism · 3 years ago
> Is there any reason to believe so?

Yes, specificially this article: http://haggardhawksblog.blogspot.com/2015/03/ampersand.html

boffinism commented on Ampersand (2015)   haggardhawksblog.blogspot... · Posted by u/alex_young
kgwgk · 3 years ago
One could say whatever one wants but I think that in this case it’s actually a conjunction and I doubt anybody has ever said “I per se I” (Edited to add: actually that makes sense - for the letter i - but in a different context: spelling and not alphabet recitation. “c, a, r : car”, “i : I”. _letter_ (per se) : _word_)

https://www.englishclub.com/efl/podcasts/interesting-facts/a...

At the end of the alphabet, students would say “X,Y,Z and, per se, & (and)”.

boffinism · 3 years ago
Re "I doubt anybody has ever said I per se I" (in the context of alphabet recitation) may I draw your attention to this article[0]:

> Up until as recently as the mid 1900s, it was standard practice when reciting the alphabet to use the Latin phrase per se (literally “by itself”) to differentiate between individual letters of the alphabet—like A, I, and O—and single-character homographic words—like a, I and O.

> So the letter A would be read as “A per se A”, to ensure it was distinguished from the indefinite article a. The letter I, similarly, would be “I per se I” to differentiate it from the pronoun I. And the letter O would be “O per se O” to differentiate it from the interjection O!

[0] http://haggardhawksblog.blogspot.com/2015/03/ampersand.html

boffinism commented on Ampersand (2015)   haggardhawksblog.blogspot... · Posted by u/alex_young
kgwgk · 3 years ago
Because the alphabet was “a, b, …, x, y, z and &” (pronounced “… why zed and per se and”) and now it’s “a, b, …, x, y and z” (pronounced “… why and zed”).
boffinism · 3 years ago
You're missing that "& per se &" would still have been called that even if it wasn't the last item in the list. If the order was "...y, & and z" you'd pronounce it "why and per se and and zed".
boffinism commented on Ampersand (2015)   haggardhawksblog.blogspot... · Posted by u/alex_young
kgwgk · 3 years ago
Ok, I stand corrected.

But saying that the name of the character “&” was pronounced “and per se and” is like saying that the name of the character “Z” is pronounced “and zee” or “and zed”.

boffinism · 3 years ago
No it isn't. The first "and" in "and per se and" isn't a conjunction. So you could actually say:

I per se I, O per se O, and and per se and.

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oneeyedpigeon · 3 years ago
Are you sure that out-of-the-box GA requires it? I thought the only info it recorded was anonymised.
boffinism · 3 years ago
Don't confuse cookie laws with data laws
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illiarian · 3 years ago
>The vast majority of people DO NOT care about cookies nor do they care about trackers.

When presented with "Ask app to not track" on iOS, 96% users clicked "do not track" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/96-of-us-users-opt-o...

boffinism · 3 years ago
These two statements are not incompatible.
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uncfrj · 3 years ago
What is preventing you from opening a non greedy supermarket?
boffinism · 3 years ago
Taking the question at face value, the answer is: massive amounts of capital. And barriers to entry like that make the 'the free market will solve this' argument less convincing.
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hanniabu · 3 years ago
"Why Americans Care About Food and Shelter"
boffinism · 3 years ago
Do you think other cultures, who care less about work, care less about food and shelter? Or would you care to elaborate on why work is more necessary for food and shelter in America than in other cultures (bearing in mind that America is one of the more developed nations on earth)?

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