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behaveEc0n00 commented on From Burned Out Tech CEO to Amazon Warehouse Associate   jasonshen.com/120/... · Posted by u/jasonshen
avgDev · 3 years ago
"The experience was physically taxing, he was diagnosed with tendonitis after moving hundreds of boxes a day, but it pulled him out of his depression and helped him gain perspective and a deeper sense of meaning".......

I have mixed feelings about this. What this has proven is working at amazon warehouse sucks, and is not sustainable.

I've had many physical shitty jobs in my 20's. Then, I had some health issue and could no longer keep doing that to my body, so I went back to school and got a CS degree.

I sometimes get depressed and miss physical work, but then I remember how shit it was and how an injury would prevent me from working. As a dev I think I'm going to be able to earn money as long as I'm alive and have a functioning brain.

I guess once you have enough money then maybe someone might find that work fun? Obviously it helped the writer with depression. However, if he ever gets permanently hurt and it affects his daily life I have a feeling depression will come back in full swing. Office work is much much safer.

There are ways to help people through tech and have much bigger affect then moving boxes for a shitty company.

Edit: What helps my depression is connecting with people outside of work, helping people in my community, doing projects around my house and spending time with my son. Additionally, I try to make good choices when spending my money and limit my spending on stuff I don't need, as I dislike excessive spending.

Edit2: Some great comments below. This is very much poverty/shit job tourism, which the writer can escape at any moment. This is some BlackMirror type of content. Guy makes it big in tech, retires, now works shit job people are trying to escape to cure his depression. He then writes about it on a blog. Now, other non-aware devs might be reading it contemplating leaving their jobs to do a REAL job.

behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
The public is catching on to how sucky it is: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/jun/22/amazon-wo...

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behaveEc0n00 commented on Ubisoft+Bungie Scrambling to Evacuate Players Games from Capsizing Google Stadia   forbes.com/sites/paultass... · Posted by u/metadat
WastingMyTime89 · 3 years ago
Honestly, I find that so surprising.

I’m used to Google pulling the rug under their users. They are a B2C company for most of the product they stop. It only somewhat damages their image. Probably not much revenue lost there.

But mismanaging their large business partners seems new. That’s the kind of reputation which can really negatively affect their other B2B products. For it to leak like that in the press, they must really have botched it. Makes you wonder what’s happening at Google.

behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
They’ve rug pulled on users who got wise. Now on B2B.

Sundar is a sus CEO. Ballmer of the decade, knows how “Google works”, but was riding high on money printer going brr. He does not seem to have a clear vision forward with the cheap cash tap turned off.

behaveEc0n00 commented on Elon Musk’s texts shatter the myth of the tech genius   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/elsewhen
previnder · 3 years ago
Almost all of these billionaires' net worth is in stocks; that is, in their (part) ownership of companies. Redistributing their wealth is the same as taking ownership of their companies away from them. In that direction lies the Soviet Union.
behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
So we could let them keep their stocks and not trade them for dollars; they own 100% of their company and the public is no longer obliged to acknowledge outsiders have ephemeral value beyond their direct contribution to society.

Demanding we believe in ephemeral property is spoken tradition not an immutable truth of reality. I am not saying we have to redistribute their wealth; I’m saying we stop idolizing wealth. Especially when tax policy and direct cash infusions from government is keeping these guys afloat. It’s not free market trade. Look at their tune change as soon as free money is shut off with interest rate changes; it’s not them it’s political policy. They’re not actually rich.

behaveEc0n00 commented on Can we make flying “Green”?   backreaction.blogspot.com... · Posted by u/nsoonhui
behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
Unless the entire production pipeline, from mining to machining parts and tools involved in making a plane, no.

Planes literally in the air are not the only source of green house gas connected to flying planes.

behaveEc0n00 commented on Amazon to Close 4 of Its 5 US Call Centers, Shifts to Work-from-Home   wolfstreet.com/2022/09/29... · Posted by u/taubek
azinman2 · 3 years ago
It’s always a mixed bag, but with the increase in work-from-home culture will come with a number of down sides for society - loneliness, a significant drop in weak bonds which significantly shrinks one’s social networks, local economic shrinkage as support businesses close (janitors, lunch spots, suppliers, etc), and a loss of general sense of belonging or even loyalty to your employer. Of course there are many obvious upsides which I’m sure HN readers will quickly defend and say they’d never be anything but remote again. That’s great when you have a choice, but when you’re a call center worker you have a low likelihood of having so much choice and autonomy over your not-quite-white-collar life. As far as a call worker goes, the inability to easily commiserate with coworkers on shitty calls, even between calls, I’m certain will lead to higher attrition and lower happiness. Humans need social support.
behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
I mean do you seriously believe office life is some immutable law of nature and without it humanity will stop being social?

You have heard of neighbors, yes? Just had “block party” with my wfh neighbors.

I learned a couple are architects, one is in biology science, etc etc.

Far more diverse conversation than parroting IT jargon all week.

behaveEc0n00 commented on Elon Musk’s texts shatter the myth of the tech genius   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/elsewhen
sn0w_crash · 3 years ago
Because they’ve created immense value, jobs, and progress from which other human beings have benefited and will continue to benefit for years to come. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
So “think of the greater good” hokum?

You have the spoken traditions memorized, that’s for sure.

behaveEc0n00 commented on Elon Musk’s texts shatter the myth of the tech genius   theatlantic.com/technolog... · Posted by u/elsewhen
dadoge · 3 years ago
Breaking: A CEO of a very successful company is a human being
behaveEc0n00 · 3 years ago
Good point. Why enrich them beyond other human beings? One of billions is a much more reasonable view of who they are.

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