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_Codemonkeyism commented on Tell HN: My entire company's Gsuite access has been banned    · Posted by u/ameyv
bartvk · 5 years ago
Except the problem is that you can't really back up Google documents. The file format is closed. You can, of course, periodically export them into common document formats. But you can't restore the same Google document and expect it back with all its functionality.

For the rest, you're completely right. Everything possible should've been backed up. It just has nagged me that a real backup isn't possible, and it has bitten me in the past (corrupted drawing, which corrupted related documents as well). Since then, I have only used the Google sheets/documents/etc. for throwaways and drafts.

_Codemonkeyism · 5 years ago
I'm paranoid and tell people to print out data they can't backup and put it in a safe. I've always had some essential data printed out put in a fireproof safe :-) But yes Google is bad at this.

If you have critical data that can cost your company that you can't backup, your're living a risky life. Hopefully they've checked with their colleagues that those agree with living that risky life.

_Codemonkeyism commented on Tell HN: My entire company's Gsuite access has been banned    · Posted by u/ameyv
aaomidi · 5 years ago
What's the point of kicking someone when they're down?

Like does this give you a sense of superiority?

_Codemonkeyism · 5 years ago
Why would it give me a feeling of superiority?

I could have said: Been there bought the T-shirt and I feel your pain. Which would be true. The person would have not felt better in any way because the data is gone, and would not have learned something either.

Does the person feel worse because of my comment? Don't think so. Either he already new and agrees with 'Yes, d* it should have done that, you're right' - what I felt someone said this to me - or he learned something. Perhaps if getting kicked hard enough he will not skip backups next time.

Does he feel bad? Sure.

Does anyone think about the people who he dragged down with him because he didn't have backups which would have been something he is paid for but didn't - do risking the jobs of everyone around him.

When consulting the FIRST thing I ask:

DO YOU HAVE BACKUPS FOR YOUR AWS/GOOGLE/... DATA?

And if not do it now - although the usually answer is: This is the cloud I don't need backups because they backup the data/redundancy/S3/... What about someone deleting it? By accident or itention? What about you getting sued by A/G/MS/...? What if they kick you of like XXX (Parler, ...)?

Most do backups to a another provider the same day.

Not having backups if you're the one responsible is not the same as getting cancer or being hit by a car. It's you've screwed up very badly endangering many other people.

_Codemonkeyism commented on Tell HN: My entire company's Gsuite access has been banned    · Posted by u/ameyv
cylde_frog · 5 years ago
Rule of the internet: if anyone posts about losing data there will be a snarky comment about keeping backups
_Codemonkeyism · 5 years ago
And still, after years and years and years people do not have backups, especially if they have their data in the cloud. From my experience the number of backups people make went down not up.

If my comment helped one iota to make backups more likely next time, I did good.

_Codemonkeyism commented on Tell HN: My entire company's Gsuite access has been banned    · Posted by u/ameyv
_Codemonkeyism · 5 years ago
You're probably glad that you had the basics in place and made regular back ups of your data. Hopefully you didn't follow the "it's in the cloud so I don't need to backup" philosophy.
_Codemonkeyism commented on The vast but little-known fund of the Mormon Church   wsj.com/articles/the-morm... · Posted by u/havella
gherkinnn · 6 years ago
I find a lot of people invoke Christ, but have little to do with his teachings.

Amusingly, his ideas align more with beliefs held by “the young left” than by “the old right”. (Yesyes, bad terms but you know what I mean) And yet the real-world allegiances are inverted.

_Codemonkeyism · 6 years ago
Many "Christians" follow more Moses than Jesus - and ignor Jesus teachings - and would better be called Mosians. Though amassing gold was also not Mosianic.
_Codemonkeyism commented on Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death   nytimes.com/2020/02/04/bu... · Posted by u/AndrewBissell
jyrkesh · 6 years ago
I was shocked. Most of my tech savvy and industry friends were shocked. My parents were shocked. It was BLANKET metadata collection (and probably more). A Google engineer who eventually encrypted traffic between their internal data centers was shocked: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131106/00235225143/pisse...

I know people were "absolutely sure" before PRISM leaked, but it was a revelation to many.

_Codemonkeyism · 6 years ago
As I've said I stand corrected. I just could not imagine people being shocked after PHOENIX [0], COINTELPRO [1] and ECHOLON [2], but even tech savvy people were shocked as you say.

[0] US government knows no limits [1] US government does domestic espionage [2] US governemnt listens in on everything

_Codemonkeyism commented on Ask HN: How did you fix your narcissism?    · Posted by u/zuzuleinen
_Codemonkeyism · 6 years ago
Reading the last psychatrist.

https://thelastpsychiatrist.com/narcissism/

_Codemonkeyism commented on Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death   nytimes.com/2020/02/04/bu... · Posted by u/AndrewBissell
commoner · 6 years ago
The key words in here are "scope and depth". Before Snowden, the idea that the American government would collect the communications of hundreds of millions of people who are not under investigation en masse was considered a conspiracy theory by the average American Internet user. I'm not aware of any studies done on this topic, but it's a common sense observation.

Yes, I was shocked by the PRISM disclosures in 2013. Feel free to contact the authors of these articles if you want to argue with them, since they agree.

Edit: You apparently disliked my replies enough to downvote all of my recent comments on other threads.

_Codemonkeyism · 6 years ago
I've upvoted your replies, because I stand corrected as I've said.

My comments though have tanked Karma.

_Codemonkeyism commented on Jeffrey Epstein's mystery bank came alive after his death   nytimes.com/2020/02/04/bu... · Posted by u/AndrewBissell
commoner · 6 years ago
It's easy to forget how things were before the Snowden revelations, since Internet privacy issues have been covered much more extensively by the media since then.

(Edited to add "Internet" above.)

> Until Snowden, the idea that Western governments would routinely collect, store, and analyze our personal data sounded like a conspiracy theory to many people.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/the-snowden-lega...

> The revelations were shocking: the scope and depth of the NSA’s collection of private data stopped looking like a conspiracy theory and became a cold, hard reality we all had to face.

https://www.theverge.com/2013/12/30/5224680/the-year-in-revi...

> There was a time when the idea that the U.S. government might spy on your web activity might have seemed like a far-fetched conspiracy theory.

> But that was before Edward Snowden.

https://computer.howstuffworks.com/government-see-website.ht...

_Codemonkeyism · 6 years ago
"It's easy to forget how things were before the Snowden revelations, since privacy issues have been covered much more extensively by the media since then."

No it's not. I can't find any data to this narrative. There were (media) discussions on the government collecting all the data it can in the 70s, and they come up with every census.

There have been huge discussions around ECHOLON. There have been huge discussions about COINTELPRO.

Shocking to whom? I never met anyone who was shocked. Did you? Were YOU shocked by the fact that the NSA was listening in on the internet? Was your mom shocked that the government listened in on the internet? Who are those "many people"? Is there a poll or any substantial data? I really would like to hear from someone who thinks that it was a conspiracy theory that the NSA was listening in on the internet and then was shocked by the Snowden revelations.

I've read all three articles and none has any data or facts about the "many people" or any sources. What are many people? Where does this come from?

The parent comment claims:

"considered a baseless conspiracy theory before the Snowden leaks."

Considered by whom?

EDIT: Ok, thanks telling me you were shocked that the NSA was listening in on the internet. I would not have thought that someone on HN was shocked, especially after ECHOLON - I stand corrected.

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