Diff with Rogers is that they took out their entire network: cellular, home/biz internet, home phone, corporate circuits (including MPLS links), most cable TV, a bunch of their broadcast radio (AM/FM) network just dead dead dead.
Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because the device made just enough of a handshake to try and fail on the Rogers network. A flaw in GSM I reckon.
Apparently the workaround was to remove/disable your SIM and hope another network has a stronger signal.
Oh, and the CTO was on holiday and had no idea for a while because… their phone was on roaming with Rogers and therefore dead.
I wonder if Rogers still does planned-in-advance multi-stage potentially-enterprise-breaking updates on Fridays
In a financial company I worked at we would do some of the biggest, riskiest changes at 5pm on a Friday (or Saturday evening if we were worried about impacting international trades). The logic being that we would have the most time to fix things before markets open monday.
The '22 Rogers outage, hah. As I recall it didn't affect me at all since I was at home and work in Vancouver all day… but it was a great excuse for not responding to workplace on-call messages which I got in the evening
> Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because the device made just enough of a handshake to try and fail on the Rogers network. A flaw in GSM I reckon.
Didn't know that part, amazing.
It sounds kind of like connecting to a WiFi access point which has a broken/non-working uplink to the Internet. Modern smartphones pretty much automatically detect and avoid such APs, and indeed the whole SSID if they need to, but it sounds like the stuck-in-1985 2G baseband layer has no equivalent connectivity check.
Reminds me of recent outages in Russia due to buggy rollouts of Great Russian Firewall aka Sovereign Internet. Were there any state-level infrastructure updates planned recently?
We also have mobile internet disabled/throttled sometimes when there are drone attacks or large international forums. Weak-minded people with Internet dependency like to complain about this online as if their online game is more important than an international forum.
Serious question: who gets to decide that some international forum is more important than residents’ use? - be it games, video calls, or whatever else.
Seems to be the norm, unfortunately. I have a day’s worth of emails that were never delivered a few weeks ago due to an issue with Apple’s Hide My Email service, and AFAIK there hasn’t been any statement from Apple on the matter.
Data is working on Vodafone mvno. Can't call Out or text, Can't make calls On o2 or EE either. Edit EE working. Edit all mobiles now seem to be working OK.
Readit News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnvmvqrnq7go
> A spokesperson from BT, which owns EE, apologised and said the firm was "currently addressing an issue impacting our services".
> Vodafone and Three have confirmed to the BBC they do not have network issues.
Isn't that normal for O2? /s
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/rogers-commun...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Rogers_Communications_out...
Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because the device made just enough of a handshake to try and fail on the Rogers network. A flaw in GSM I reckon.
Apparently the workaround was to remove/disable your SIM and hope another network has a stronger signal.
Oh, and the CTO was on holiday and had no idea for a while because… their phone was on roaming with Rogers and therefore dead.
I wonder if Rogers still does planned-in-advance multi-stage potentially-enterprise-breaking updates on Fridays
> Well, their towers were sorta up (as they couldn’t remotely turn them off since the network was down), so if you had a Rogers SIM, a call to 9-1-1 wouldn’t failover to other networks because the device made just enough of a handshake to try and fail on the Rogers network. A flaw in GSM I reckon.
Didn't know that part, amazing.
It sounds kind of like connecting to a WiFi access point which has a broken/non-working uplink to the Internet. Modern smartphones pretty much automatically detect and avoid such APs, and indeed the whole SSID if they need to, but it sounds like the stuck-in-1985 2G baseband layer has no equivalent connectivity check.
I thought your phone uses all available networks (ie the strongest one) while roaming. Is that not the case?
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