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ndiddy · 7 months ago
If you're interested in this, someone on YouTube got a WeatherStar 4000 (device that sat at cable headends and generated the local weather report graphics) and wrote all new firmware to make 90's style weather reports on the real hardware. This was necessary because the original firmware was downloaded over satellite so it's now lost. It looks basically identical to the real Weather Channel from the 90s, except it doesn't have their logo in the corner (I guess for trademark reasons). Here's a stream of his WeatherStar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mSjXpfD2c
CursedSilicon · 7 months ago
If it's the same one that brings the equipment to Retro Computing events. He sadly has declined to publish any kind of archive of the software for other hobbyists :(

I understand that he's under no obligation to do so. But a lot of us worry that if the hard disks die or if he loses interest in the hobby, that software will be irrevocably lost for all of us

Maxious · 7 months ago
The youtube stream has a link in the description for EEPROM dumps https://hackaday.io/project/178144-reverse-engineering-the-w...
jimmydddd · 7 months ago
Importantly, it also plays Weather Channel-esque background music.
jazzyjackson · 7 months ago
Thanks for mentioning that, had me digging around for where I can find the music. The youtube link lead me to the project's hackaday log, which is extremely detailed but lacks any mention of music [0]

The submission link's github page [1] links to a website listing all the tracks that ever played [2], explaining they dropped the music from the project so as not to deal with copyright claims. too bad fair use isn't clear enough to apply here, I think its a relatively transformative use and doesn't compete with the original.

[0] https://hackaday.io/project/178144-reverse-engineering-the-w...

[1] https://github.com/netbymatt/ws4kp

[2] https://twcclassics.com/audio/artists.html

insaneirish · 7 months ago
> Importantly, it also plays Weather Channel-esque background music.

Which has its own sort of funny subculture. One is Phish fans unexpectedly hearing what was decidedly not publicly common music being aired on the Weather Channel: https://jambands.com/features/2002/07/24/guyute-and-your-loc...

Fast forward 20ish years and a similar thing happened with Fox Sports interludes: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/17/fox-producer-who-got-the-n...

jjk7 · 7 months ago
If you read his devlog, he started this project not knowing assembly or C... teaching himself as he went. Incredible.
mgr86 · 7 months ago
Interesting project thanks for sharing.

I've casually tried to track down a voice in weather from that time with no luck, but this project scratches the itch somewhat. When I was younger (late 90s-early 00's) I spent a fair amount of my summers fishing with my father and brother on Lake Ontario. We would occasionally turn on the radio and catch a weather report from the coast guard/noaa. There was something about that then out-dated computer generated voice delivering the weather succinctly and to the point.

It was actually a project I used to evaluate coding done by an LLM. It was mediocre and took way too many iterations. But I now have a keyboard shortcut that will fetch KML/XML from noaa, parse out my important details, and read it back to me. The voice isn't quite right. But the morning I spent working on that was a good distraction at the time.

xattt · 7 months ago
A comment on this YouTube video [1] says that DECtalk Perfect Paul was used for NOAA Weather Radio in the 1990s.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGpf6B8EvVY

KurSix · 7 months ago
Kind of wild how much of that era's tech was ephemeral
post_break · 7 months ago
I run one of these on my desk 24x7 with a raspberry pi and a 3D printed monitor that simulates a CRT. I tried with a real CRT TV but the frequency and having it at the side of my main monitor started to make me sick.

https://imgur.com/a/wD2EINO

https://github.com/vbguyny/ws4kp

wiether · 7 months ago
I love the contrast between using a book to raise your main screen... and having a whole computer dedicated to showing weather 24/7!
post_break · 7 months ago
You missed the irony of the monitor sitting on a NUC that is probably 1000x more powerful than the Pi running the weather lol.
exikyut · 7 months ago
What do you mean by "sick"? Headaches from coil/flyback transformer whine? Perceptible flicker due to the CRT being in the corner of your peripheral vision?

I'm a bit susceptible to noises myself.

post_break · 7 months ago
The flicker in the corner of my eye. It started to make me sick to my stomach somehow. It's a weird feeling.
shortstuffsushi · 7 months ago
It seems like this could make a good addition for the folks working on EmuVR @ https://www.emuvr.net/
agscala · 7 months ago
Nice! Which screen is that? All of the screens I've found are widescreen and I'd like to do a similar project
gasgiant · 7 months ago
I listen to a lot of Pat Metheny Group, which my wife refers to as "Weather Channel Music". I used to argue that Pat was waaay better than the stuff on the Weather Channel, until one day we had it on in a hotel room and "Last Train Home" came on, and I had to shut the heck up.
colpabar · 7 months ago
Music is so funny. I just listened to this on youtube and _immediately_ started crying because it reminded me of my late father who used to watch the weather channel all the time. Seeing this thread and all the weather channel talk makes me think of him, but man, hearing the music just wrecks me.
jader201 · 7 months ago
Yeah, there's something about hearing -- especially music -- and smell that can somehow really induce major nostalgia, where sight just doesn't have the same effect.

Sight still definitely can induce nostalgia, but not near to the extent as hearing and smell.

Particularly music, where it already has the power to induce emotions already.

ecocentrik · 7 months ago
"Last Train Home" was used in a popular supermarket chain (Publix) commercial in the 1990s. I'm pretty sure it was one of Pat's most commercially successful songs. The album, "Still Life", is great.
mortenjorck · 7 months ago
"Last Train Home" is a banger, in any case.
alexjplant · 7 months ago
Given how much fusion they played on "Local on the 8s" I wonder if they ever spun some Weather Report...
paradox460 · 7 months ago
Enterprising TV producers used Pat Metheny a fair bit. The Search was used as a theme for a TV show (The Search for Solutions), and at least a half dozen KNME made TV shows in the 90s used bits of American Garage and First Circle
xorbax · 7 months ago
Wasn't there also a text-to-speech voiceover of the local forecast text?

I would have sworn they would replace the music with a guy "reading" the forecast.

dylan604 · 7 months ago
In large markets, some of the local broadcast stations have a dedicated digital channel that plays a local version of this. In my market, they have the digital voice reading the forecast.
dcrazy · 7 months ago
There was a time when it was only prerecorded “The forecast for your area”
xd1936 · 7 months ago
"Your Local 'On the 8s'"
HeckFeck · 7 months ago
"Last Train Home" was also used as outro music for the anime JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, S3, Stardust Crusaders.
dcrazy · 7 months ago
This reminds me of when I first listened to my dad’s Spyro Gyra CD.
jader201 · 7 months ago
It will only be the true 90s Weather Channel when I hear some Rippingtons playing in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndaMC-Ug4Jg

huslage · 7 months ago
I bought all of the Rippingtons albums because I heard them on the Weather Channel...I was inexplicably into smooth jazz at the time.
gosub100 · 7 months ago
If you like the music more than the data, search YouTube for "weather channel vaporwave". I find it relaxing
2OEH8eoCRo0 · 7 months ago
I remember instrumental covers of Pink Floyd.
polygot · 7 months ago
Not sure how they're going to go around that corner with that vehicle
doawoo · 7 months ago
I have a version (probably not exactly the same software for the head unit) of this on an SGI O2 sitting around including all the environment scripts and the HTML manuals. I have a tar.gz of it that I should upload to an archive location.
CursedSilicon · 7 months ago
Please do! The software has been undumped and is highly desired by retro enthusiasts (including myself)
bdbenton5255 · 7 months ago
Love it, made me smile. The "warmth" of all this old tech is nostalgic, all the little human touches lost to history. The little bits of heart and soul that shaped the details of our lives, some nameless engineer on some forgotten afternoon implementing the little blue waves in the rain clouds. Something strangely bittersweet about it.
KurSix · 7 months ago
There's something really touching about how even the most utilitarian things (like a weather report) had this quiet artistry to them.
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 · 7 months ago
Looks like this was the original version? https://github.com/vbguyny/ws4kp
xp84 · 7 months ago
Indeed, though significant work has been done on this one, detailed in the readme. On the other hand, the one you’ve linked has since the fork added a “custom RSS feed in the scroller” feature.
socalgal2 · 7 months ago
Not knowing what WeatherStar 4000+ was, I was expecting "Weather Channel Simulator" to use AI to generate live video of a weather reporter describing the weather.

Can't be too far off.

samtp · 7 months ago
This is a lot more interesting and impressive than AI generated goop
pncnmnp · 7 months ago
I was thinking the same thing! I've been working with some TTS applications, such as real-time commentary for Pong and personalized radio stations. I might give this a try, it sounds fun.
KurSix · 7 months ago
Honestly, give it a year or two and someone will have a fine-tuned LLM generating endless 90s-style weather banter with a deepfaked Jim Cantore pointing at AI-generated radar maps.
beowulfey · 7 months ago
Yeah! There's nothing quite like watching fake people on fake weather broadcasts presenting weather just for me. One day we'll wonder why we ever used humans for anything.