Sometimes languages/runtimes move slowly :) Speaking as a JS developer, this is how we made requests for a long time (before .fetch), inside the browser which is basically made for making requests:

    var xhr = new XMLHttpRequest();
    xhr.open('POST', 'https://example.com', true);
    xhr.setRequestHeader('Content-type', 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded');
    xhr.onload = function () {
        console.log(this.responseText);
    };
    xhr.send('param=add_comment');

Lots of people just like requests though as an alternative, or for historical reasons, or because of some particular aspect of its ergonomics, or to have a feature they’d rather have implemented for them than have to write in their own calling code.

At this stage it’s like using jQuery just to find an element by css selector (instead of just using document.querySelector.)

But here all the script is going is a trivial GET, that’s

    urllib.request.urlopen(url)

For perspective: urllib has existed since at least as 1.4 (released in 1996), as long as python.org's archive goes back (https://docs.python.org/release/1.4/lib/node113.html#SECTION...). Requests dates to 2011. httpx (the author's choice) has a 0.0.1 release from 2015, but effectively didn't exist until 2019 and is still zerover after a failed 1.0.0 prerelease in 2021. Python can't be sanely compared to the modern package-manager-based upstarts because it's literally not from that generation. When Python came out, the idea of versioning the language (not referring to a year some standards document was published) was, as far as I can tell, kinda novel. Python is older than Java, Applescript, and VB; over twice as old as Go; and over three times as old as Swift.

>Especially for a language that has not cared too much about backwards compatibility historically

It's always confused me that people actually see things this way. In my view, excessive concern for compatibility has severely inhibited Python (and especially packaging, if you want to include that despite being technically third-party) from fixing real problems. People switching over to 3.x should have been much faster; the breaking changes were unambiguously for the better and could not have been done in non-breaking ways.

There are tons of things the developers refuse to remove from the standard library that they would never even remotely consider adding today if they weren't already there - typically citing "maintenance burden" for even the simplest things. Trying to get anything added is a nightmare: even if you convince everyone it looks like a good idea, you'll invariably asked to prove interest by implementing it yourself (who's to say all the good ideas come from programmers?) and putting it on PyPI. (I was once told this myself even though I was proposing a method on a builtin. Incidentally, I learned those can be patched in CPython, thanks to a hack involving the GC implementation.) Then, even if you somehow manage to get people to notice you, and everyone likes it, now there is suddenly no reason to add it; after all, you're in a better position to maintain it externally, since it can be versioned separately.

If I were remaking Python today, the standard library would be quite minimal, although it would integrate bare necessities for packaging - APIs, not applications. (And the few things that really need to be in the standard library for a REPL to be functional and aware of the platform, would be in a namespace. They're a honking great idea. Let's do more of those.)

    uv python find --script foo.py

— https://docs.astral.sh/uv/reference/cli/#uv-python-find--scr...

One drawback of this workflow is that by default, you duplicate the dependencies: you have them both in the PEP 723 script itself and `pyproject.toml`. I just switched a small server application from shiv (https://github.com/linkedin/shiv) to inline script metadata after a binary dependency broke the zipapp. I experimented with having `pyproject.toml` as the single source of truth for metadata in this project. I wrote the following code to embed the metadata in the script before it was deployed on the server. In a project that didn't already have a build and deploy step, you'd probably want to modify the PEP 723 script in place.

  #! /usr/bin/env python3
  # License: https://dbohdan.mit-license.org/@2025/license.txt
  
  import re
  import tomllib
  from pathlib import Path
  from string import Template
  
  import tomli_w
  
  DEPENDENCIES = "dependencies"
  PROJECT = "project"
  REQUIRES_PYTHON = "requires-python"
  
  DST = Path("bundle.py")
  PYPROJECT = Path("pyproject.toml")
  SRC = Path("main.py")
  
  BUNDLE = Template(
      """
  #! /usr/bin/env -S uv run --quiet --script
  # /// script
  $toml
  # ///
  
  $code
  """.strip()
  )
  
  
  def main() -> None:
      with PYPROJECT.open("rb") as f:
          pyproject = tomllib.load(f)
  
      toml = tomli_w.dumps(
          {
              DEPENDENCIES: pyproject[PROJECT][DEPENDENCIES],
              REQUIRES_PYTHON: pyproject[PROJECT][REQUIRES_PYTHON],
          },
          indent=2,
      )
  
      code = SRC.read_text()
      code = re.sub(r"^#![^\n]+\n", "", code)
  
      bundle = BUNDLE.substitute(
          toml="\n".join(f"# {line}" for line in toml.splitlines()),
          code=code,
      )
  
      DST.write_text(bundle)
  
  
  if __name__ == "__main__":
      main()

The former is subjective, but the latter seems like not really much of an issue compared to the language itself being written in C.

    I also modified a script I've been using for a few years to patch pylsp so it can now see uv script envs using the "uv sync --dry-run --script <path>" hack.

Not at the moment, but will your grandma run a script? There is an interesting thing you can already do today for larger applications which is to install uv alongside your app. You can make a curl-to-bash thing or similar that first installs uv into a program specific location to then use that to bootstrap your program. Is it a good idea? I don't know, but you can do that.

https://www.franzoni.eu/single-file-editable-python-scripts-...

`( curl -LsSf https://astral.sh/uv/install.sh | sh ) && ./run_script.sh`