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black_puppydog · 7 months ago
The "Youtube vs users" battle about how complicated they can make of for ad lockers has been frustrating to watch already.

But if they follow through and just cut us off at some point then fine. I ditched the habits of Facebook and Twitter, I'll learn to live without YouTube.

And before anyone argues to just pay up, I'm already subscribed to enough creators directly. I'm not giving Google one cent.

antihipocrat · 7 months ago
Also, content creators now have their own ads within their content itself. I feel no need to give Google any money.
beej71 · 7 months ago
Also, Google dropped "don't be evil" a long time ago. I don't feel ethically comfortable giving them money. I pay a lot of people on patreon more money than they'd make off me with YouTube ads.
amarant · 7 months ago
I mean they (Google) do provide a service. One could possibly argue that the content creators should pay Google to distribute their material, kind of like an equivalent to a AWS bill, but is anyone arguing that?

It would actually be a kind of reasonable argument, or at least more reasonable than the currently popular "Google is rich so they should provide services for absolutely free".

ilrwbwrkhv · 7 months ago
Adblock and Sponsorblock. Haven't seen one ad in forever. Also works on the TV.
elforce002 · 7 months ago
I made it he mistake of using the yt app and I wanted to throw the phone away. Never again.
DoktorDelta · 7 months ago
I'm replacing my Roku TV with a Google TV next month so I can take advantage of these as well, it's been a pain having them only on my phones/computers.
Stevvo · 7 months ago
Adblock has not been completely effective on YouTube for a while. I would check you are not unknowingly subscribed to premium.
ikjasdlk2234 · 7 months ago
How does this work on the TV?
ToniCipriani · 7 months ago
SmartTube Next is GOAT.
grajaganDev · 7 months ago
You are also protected from malvertising.
swah · 7 months ago
You're a millionaire or multimillionaire so... curious if any reason for not paying for Youtube Premium?
anigbrowl · 7 months ago
I wouldn't be blocking ads if they weren't so trash. For a long time I had YouTube whitelisted, but they kept abusing their users.
christianqchung · 7 months ago
Yep, I used to advocate against using adblock on youtube. Seriously. My original logic may not have been sound (ads support the platform, indirectly the creator[0]), but I would absolutely never make that argument today. The decline in user experience has made unhinged ads being shoved in your face intolerable for me.

[0] sure this still applies, but sponsors and Patreons exist at a far higher rate than in 2015 when I first thought this, and it's on Google/youtube to figure out their monetization policy, not me.

eviks · 7 months ago
The quality of "ad user experience" (and the inevitable end state for the new platform) was well known back when you've come up with your original logic

(and the challenge with sponsors/patreons of not having micro-transactions and having more friction from users is also still there)

DoctorOW · 7 months ago
Same here. I'm sympathetic to the argument that creators use the ads to survive, but I'm not a woman of unlimited patience.
cudgy · 7 months ago
True. The long ads are mostly scams or Chuck Norris fitness plans for 70+ year old people.
hinkley · 7 months ago
I installed an ad blocker because a webcomic I liked was letting ads at the top of the page click jack users for an extended period of time and I’d finally had enough.
compootr · 7 months ago
this basically summarizes the advertising industry + the internet
mitthrowaway2 · 7 months ago
There's something about Youtube ads that are particularly bad. Straight-up pyramid scams promising free money from Amazon or Elon Musk preying on the vulnerable, offensive videos, and so on. It's much worse than the ads I see in magazines, billboards, or on network television.
yoyohello13 · 7 months ago
I just pay for YouTube premium now.
aunty_helen · 7 months ago
What I want to know is why when I'm using a logged out browser all of the shorts on the home page are effectively softcore porn.
Marsymars · 7 months ago
Not especially relevant to the OP, but as a very light facebook user, I've noticed the same thing with reels in my feed. I assume they don't have enough info other than "male" to target me with.
LinuxBender · 7 months ago
Same. I've never searched for anything close to that on YT as there are a plethora of other places for porn that don't even require a browser. Thankfully there are uBlock filters to get rid of shorts [1].

[1] - https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts

__turbobrew__ · 7 months ago
I noticed this too. It appears to mostly be funnels into people’s onlyfans. Post some softcore porn on YouTube to bait people into purchasing an onlyfans subscription.
switch007 · 7 months ago
They've been doing it for years on Instagram too
ofalkaed · 7 months ago
Lots of people probably log out to look at things they don't want in their history/affecting the recommendation algorithms, etc skewing the algorithm for people who are not logged in.
tennisflyi · 7 months ago
Sex sells. That’s it.
kibwen · 7 months ago
Five years from now: "Frustrated AdTube users seek explanation when ads periodically interrupted by non-ad content"
jongjong · 7 months ago
Possible, just connect ad-viewing hours to people's social credit score.
__MatrixMan__ · 7 months ago
Five years after that:

> Thousands of cloned irises have been stolen from illegal AdViewCoin mining operation. Auth Syndicate refuses to intervene on behalf of the original iris owners, instead accusing them of biometric fraud for allowing the clones to be made in the first place.

ozten · 7 months ago
Logged in I am wildly mistargeted. When I go anonymous via private browsing, the YT ads are soft core porn. Is Google having trouble with inventory or ???
datavirtue · 7 months ago
Yeah, I'm totally shocked at the amount of soft core troll porn spread across Meta, TikTok, YouTube and probably any other main stream tech property. Is Apple allowing this at all? I'm no church lady but I don't want this stuff cast onto my screens unless I'm searching for it specifically. They are pushing it on people involuntarily.
gorbachev · 7 months ago
This is why I have stopped logging in to my Google account when watching videos on YouTube.

Google is still fingerprinting me, of course, and applying their recommendation algorithm to what they show me on the default page, but at least they can't ban my Google account for violating their terms.

I will never stop using ad blockers. If I that means I'm blocked from accessing some web sites, then so be it.

grajaganDev · 7 months ago
Thank you. For security reasons, it is very important for everyone to use an adblocker
mystified5016 · 7 months ago
Husband has been seeing these absolutely bottom barrel ai generated ads for boner pills in the middle of his videos.

I'm honestly shocked every time I'm exposed to ads these days. It's gotten dire.

iandanforth · 7 months ago
The idea that creators are being impacted negatively is purposefully dishonest.

- It suggests that what youtube cares about is creators and not their own profit margin, which is false

- It suggests that adblock users should be the ones to change their behavior, where Google could immediately simply pay the creators more for a much larger impact

- It ignores the plain facts of youtubes consistently increasing revenue.(1)

Companies should be held to a basic level of honest communication that this fails to meet.

(1) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/you...