The "Youtube vs users" battle about how complicated they can make of for ad lockers has been frustrating to watch already.
But if they follow through and just cut us off at some point then fine. I ditched the habits of Facebook and Twitter, I'll learn to live without YouTube.
And before anyone argues to just pay up, I'm already subscribed to enough creators directly. I'm not giving Google one cent.
Also, Google dropped "don't be evil" a long time ago. I don't feel ethically comfortable giving them money. I pay a lot of people on patreon more money than they'd make off me with YouTube ads.
I mean they (Google) do provide a service. One could possibly argue that the content creators should pay Google to distribute their material, kind of like an equivalent to a AWS bill, but is anyone arguing that?
It would actually be a kind of reasonable argument, or at least more reasonable than the currently popular "Google is rich so they should provide services for absolutely free".
I'm replacing my Roku TV with a Google TV next month so I can take advantage of these as well, it's been a pain having them only on my phones/computers.
Yep, I used to advocate against using adblock on youtube. Seriously. My original logic may not have been sound (ads support the platform, indirectly the creator[0]), but I would absolutely never make that argument today. The decline in user experience has made unhinged ads being shoved in your face intolerable for me.
[0] sure this still applies, but sponsors and Patreons exist at a far higher rate than in 2015 when I first thought this, and it's on Google/youtube to figure out their monetization policy, not me.
The quality of "ad user experience" (and the inevitable end state for the new platform) was well known back when you've come up with your original logic
(and the challenge with sponsors/patreons of not having micro-transactions and having more friction from users is also still there)
I installed an ad blocker because a webcomic I liked was letting ads at the top of the page click jack users for an extended period of time and I’d finally had enough.
There's something about Youtube ads that are particularly bad. Straight-up pyramid scams promising free money from Amazon or Elon Musk preying on the vulnerable, offensive videos, and so on. It's much worse than the ads I see in magazines, billboards, or on network television.
Not especially relevant to the OP, but as a very light facebook user, I've noticed the same thing with reels in my feed. I assume they don't have enough info other than "male" to target me with.
Same. I've never searched for anything close to that on YT as there are a plethora of other places for porn that don't even require a browser. Thankfully there are uBlock filters to get rid of shorts [1].
I noticed this too. It appears to mostly be funnels into people’s onlyfans. Post some softcore porn on YouTube to bait people into purchasing an onlyfans subscription.
Lots of people probably log out to look at things they don't want in their history/affecting the recommendation algorithms, etc skewing the algorithm for people who are not logged in.
> Thousands of cloned irises have been stolen from illegal AdViewCoin mining operation. Auth Syndicate refuses to intervene on behalf of the original iris owners, instead accusing them of biometric fraud for allowing the clones to be made in the first place.
Logged in I am wildly mistargeted. When I go anonymous via private browsing, the YT ads are soft core porn. Is Google having trouble with inventory or ???
Yeah, I'm totally shocked at the amount of soft core troll porn spread across Meta, TikTok, YouTube and probably any other main stream tech property. Is Apple allowing this at all? I'm no church lady but I don't want this stuff cast onto my screens unless I'm searching for it specifically. They are pushing it on people involuntarily.
This is why I have stopped logging in to my Google account when watching videos on YouTube.
Google is still fingerprinting me, of course, and applying their recommendation algorithm to what they show me on the default page, but at least they can't ban my Google account for violating their terms.
I will never stop using ad blockers. If I that means I'm blocked from accessing some web sites, then so be it.
The idea that creators are being impacted negatively is purposefully dishonest.
- It suggests that what youtube cares about is creators and not their own profit margin, which is false
- It suggests that adblock users should be the ones to change their behavior, where Google could immediately simply pay the creators more for a much larger impact
- It ignores the plain facts of youtubes consistently increasing revenue.(1)
Companies should be held to a basic level of honest communication that this fails to meet.
But if they follow through and just cut us off at some point then fine. I ditched the habits of Facebook and Twitter, I'll learn to live without YouTube.
And before anyone argues to just pay up, I'm already subscribed to enough creators directly. I'm not giving Google one cent.
It would actually be a kind of reasonable argument, or at least more reasonable than the currently popular "Google is rich so they should provide services for absolutely free".
[0] sure this still applies, but sponsors and Patreons exist at a far higher rate than in 2015 when I first thought this, and it's on Google/youtube to figure out their monetization policy, not me.
(and the challenge with sponsors/patreons of not having micro-transactions and having more friction from users is also still there)
[1] - https://github.com/gijsdev/ublock-hide-yt-shorts
> Thousands of cloned irises have been stolen from illegal AdViewCoin mining operation. Auth Syndicate refuses to intervene on behalf of the original iris owners, instead accusing them of biometric fraud for allowing the clones to be made in the first place.
Google is still fingerprinting me, of course, and applying their recommendation algorithm to what they show me on the default page, but at least they can't ban my Google account for violating their terms.
I will never stop using ad blockers. If I that means I'm blocked from accessing some web sites, then so be it.
I'm honestly shocked every time I'm exposed to ads these days. It's gotten dire.
- It suggests that what youtube cares about is creators and not their own profit margin, which is false
- It suggests that adblock users should be the ones to change their behavior, where Google could immediately simply pay the creators more for a much larger impact
- It ignores the plain facts of youtubes consistently increasing revenue.(1)
Companies should be held to a basic level of honest communication that this fails to meet.
(1) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/you...