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kwitaszczyk · a year ago
This is a nice and easy to understand example of a memory-safety bug that CHERI [1] prevents (among other classes of vulnerabilities). Given that the SYSCTL_PROC() macro installs a pointer to an uint16_t value in the oid_arg1 field, a CHERI pure-capability kernel would construct a capability with bounds set to sizeof(uint16_t) and later the dereference of (int *)oidp->oid_arg1 in sysctl_udp_log_port() would trigger a capability bounds violation.

`sysctl -a` would simply crash on CHERI allowing a developer to catch this without KASAN being involved.

[1] http://cheri-cpu.org

pjmlp · a year ago
Not only, SPARC ADI and ARM MTE as well.
nixpulvis · a year ago
Seems like something to be integration tested in the future. Honestly surprised this slipped through.
0x457 · a year ago
I saw that types are different, but I was thinking "must be some weird C thing that I don't know about"
StressedDev · a year ago
I am not surprised. First, it's a subtle bug. Second, in C/C++. a lot of times you get unlucky when reading uninitialized memory. Basically, the bug does not occur when you test the code on your machine or when you run the automated tests.

Another problem is writing good automated tests is hard and often skipped. Lots of software engineering teams talk about the wonders of automated tests. Unfortunately, many automated tests are not very good and either do not ensure the major functionality works or just do not test some of the code. There are also limits to how much time a software engineer has to test. No one can test everything.

Basically, I am not surprised developers make mistakes and I am not surprised the tests either did not catch this mistake or even did not exist. Software is very hard and software engineers are far from perfect.

saagarjha · a year ago
Right, but this was caught basically instantly by Asan.
nxobject · a year ago
Did you get a bounty payout for this? I got the impression that Apple wasn't particularly on the ball with those.
ChocolateGod · a year ago
Is it even exploitable in the real world?

Correct me if I'm wrong but you get 2 bytes of kernel data (potentially blank padding) and the same two bytes each time?

bean-weevil · a year ago
If the linker puts a pointer there, this would let you leak part of the pointer which could let you bypass kaslr. Not too likely for that to occur. If I were submitting this bug I would feel complete if they bought me a sandwich.
buzzergfxkjkl · a year ago
Good to find the bug regardless! I appreciated the succinct and not overly dramatic write-up. I don't think anything significant was claimed other than the fact that it is a kernel bug (which is significant in itself don't get me wrong).
duskwuff · a year ago
You are correct. It's clearly a bug, but the impact in shipping kernels appears to be limited to "leaking" some non-sensitive data.

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inetknght · a year ago

    -   int new_value = *(int *)oidp->oid_arg1;
    +   int new_value = *(uint16_t *)oidp->oid_arg1;
Why not just have `uint16_t new_value = ...`?

Ahh, because `new_value` is being given to `sysctl_handle_int(..., &new_value, ...);` which of course expects an `int`. So then it begs the question: if the value is really a `uint16_t`, then why is it being handled through a plain `int`? It smells like there could easily be tons of other memory-safety and/or type confusion problems endemic to the sysctl API.

aritashion · a year ago
> So then it begs the question: if the value is really a `uint16_t`, then why is it being handled through a plain `int`?

I don't think it begs the question, but it does raise one!

cbarrick · a year ago
Nit: "begs the question" means "raises the question" in many contemporary colloquial contexts. It can _also_ refer to a type of logical fallacy in philosophical contexts.

The phrase can be confusing because of its overloaded definitions, so it's best to avoid it. But if you understood what someone meant when they used it, then... you understood it's meaning.

Remember to treat the study of language descriptively rather than prescriptively!

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beg_the_question

kccqzy · a year ago
Well there's the so-called usual arithmetic conversions that will basically convert every uint16_t to an unsigned int. The C and C++ languages do a silent conversion on your back anyways so you might as well make it explicit.
loeg · a year ago
Usually promotions are to signed int, not unsigned. (With some exceptions. But every uint16_t value can fit in int.)
inetknght · a year ago
A well-configured C++ compiler will error-out on such a silent conversion.
soheil · a year ago
Leaking two random bytes and in some cases just padding bytes to user space is not the end of the world and I don't get why there are so many negative comments blaming Apple for not handing out a handsome bounty for this bug.
StressedDev · a year ago
It's still a security bug. Often, multiple bugs like this are chained together to create one very nasty exploit. I agree that this bug probably does not deserve a massive payout, but I think $3,000-5,000$ is appropriate.
loeg · a year ago
You're joking. This is a $10 bug.

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yapyap · a year ago
I appreciate the among us.
jfasi · a year ago
Interestingly, ChatGPT correctly points out this exact issue:

https://chatgpt.com/share/6793a2d1-5f84-8006-8e78-16be4d4908...