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muhammadusman · a year ago
Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique. Go the route of improving what PH has and adding things that are missing.

Some ideas: - Users should be able to update their post to some extent.

- There's no "product page" in your app, build something where I can see people commenting, reacting, and maybe even sharing their own screenshots of it because that's something PH does pretty well but can be improved.

- "LAUNCHES WORTH YOUR SCROLL" sounds kinda cringe, change to something like "Find the next best thing" or make it random on load and have a few less in your face versions of it. Reddit has "homepage of the internet" which seems appropriate. You can have "have you launched yet?", "find the next best thing", "what's trending today"...etc

I have more ideas, feel free to message me or drop a way to contact you if you'd like more feedback :)

aardvark179 · a year ago
Maybe not, “next best thing,” I don’t know about American English but in British English next best means second best.
tuckerman · a year ago
At least in American English “next to best” would mean second whereas “next best thing” means something likely to be the best thing in the near future and it’s a very common idiom.
bayouborne · a year ago
I immediately got it. Understanding that the typical reader in this space is generally atypical “find the next best thing” would likely mean "look here to find the thing that's better than the current best." I guess it largely depends on who your audience is.
kelnos · a year ago
It's not "(next best) thing", it's "next (best thing)". As in the best thing that is coming up next. Not the thing that is next-best.
ribeyes · a year ago
i guess it's somewhat ambiguous here, but "next-best" would be second-best, while "next best" means "future best"

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sam1r · a year ago
>>> Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique. Go the route of improving what PH has and adding things that are missing.

Here's additionally a solution versus just criticism^^:

How about PoshProduct. ProductPower.

The word product screams attention to both product hunt and ProductPower users. Just make the emoji bolt your logo. Product Power! Be the first to know.

Good luck! This is awesome.

dowager_dan99 · a year ago
The thing that jumped out to me more the "hunt" word was "lie" - not great connotations. I assume it's supposed to be more like "ly"?
CrociDB · a year ago
That was the first thing I noticed too.
jperras · a year ago
> Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique. > [...] > You can have "have you launched yet?", "find the next best thing", "what's trending today"...etc

OP: I may or may not be in possession of hasitlaunched dot com, should you be interested in purchasing it…

malfist · a year ago
It really is an unfortunate name. How do you pronounce it, hunt lie? Hunt Lee? I'm not sure, but my first impression was it was a portmanteau of hunt and lie, which wouldn't be something I'd want my startup to be associated with
benatkin · a year ago
huntle would be better, or relativelyhuntled.com https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c5ab6ff2-0439-4ae2-8782-08830bf...
heyarviind2 · a year ago
Hey thank you so much for the feedback. I want to hear more from you.

Can we connect on Twitter/x: @heyarviind?

6510 · a year ago
Get rid of it and make a link called "about" then do the boring thing and explain what is going on, why, how much, when, who? wtf?
adamtaylor_13 · a year ago
“Clever doesn’t sell, clarity does.”
Brajeshwar · a year ago
When one builds a Product Hunt (PH) alternative, one needs to remember that PH succeeded because of Ryan Hoover. Just as with any new Startup App/Website of that time, it was not fancy, interesting or likable at all. Ryan’s shouts, marketing, and his everything everywhere all at once presence made PH. When I think of PH, I remember his avatar (profile picture); that 'P' reminds me more of Pinterest than PH.

PH is a successful directory-listing-ish website, there is always a limit to its success. Ryan, being a super smart founder, realizes that and moves out at the perfect time at its super-high hype cycle.

All PH-esque clones can focus on specific niches and become good lifestyle businesses. Like other business ideas, shred apart Craigslist and build PH of them.

ndjdjddjsjj · a year ago
Discovery plays are usually a tarpit idea though. Supply of founders high. Supply of customers low.

It is the equivalent of queuing up for an X-factor (or whatever they call it these days) audition, aiming to be the next One Direction. Someone will win of course which makes it seem possible.

Find the short queues! If someone says "why the fuck you interested in that" it might be a good sign.

Brajeshwar · a year ago
In the case of my suggestion, it is not to win, more of a play to be present and seen. Monetize via endorsement (paid listings) or ads. If you have like 10s of them, less than 10% have to attract just above average to be self-sustaining.
rrhoover · a year ago
Appreciate that. :)

We also entered the market at the right time. 2013 was very optimistic as mobile hit mainstream and barriers to build lowered. We’re entering a similar phase with AI today.

nadermx · a year ago
If I remember correctly it started as an email list too, like Craig's list, before it needed a site.
ntlk · a year ago
It started out on a service called Linkydink https://medium.com/@rrhoover/the-wisdom-of-the-20-minute-sta...
Brajeshwar · a year ago
Holy D*n. I think you are correct, and I was one of the early subscribers subscribed via Twitter Login (only option or something like that).
barlog · a year ago
RH and chrismessina.me yay.
IgorPartola · a year ago
What problem does PH solve/what problem would this solve?

Honestly PH always felt to me like a time waster. “Oh look at this idea. Neat. Next.”

Now, a website where I can type in the problem I am having and it suggests solutions (with a mix of self hosted vs commercial products depending on my settings) would be super useful. For example: “I want to organize a library full of old photos that don’t have metadata” or “I want a cheap online backup solution with support for Linux servers” or “I want to automate sending personalized-feeling birthday cards to people I know professionally”.

breadwinner · a year ago
PH is a website that program managers from big companies such as Microsoft and Google go to get ideas for new features.

I recommend against post anything to PH unless you have patents, or a big marketing budget, if not your idea will just be copied by big companies before you can get the word out about your product.

gkoberger · a year ago
Do you have any examples of this happening? How many products on Product Hunt do you think are patent-able?

My startup was posted on PH, and many years later we're quite successful. We had $0 budget and it was just me at the time, and it worked out wonderfully.

bootstrpppin · a year ago
That's a pretty cynical view....besides, big companies would take months/years to to copy an idea - even if it's a good one - and by then the market has moved.
asdf6969 · a year ago
It’s a way for developers to sell products to each other in a big circle without actually producing anything
agnishom · a year ago
"Oh look at this idea. Neat. Next."

That's exactly what HackerRank feels like. Same with "normal" social media like Reddit or Twitter

hackernewds · a year ago
then what keeps you here I'm curious
anonzzzies · a year ago
It can get you started, it did for many. It seems kind of crappy these days but it still works as a channel to get your product out.
anonzzzies · a year ago
I would like a startups-which-are-not-shallow-llm-wrappers.com. Basically don't allow any product that you go to and shows you a chatbox 'type to create X'. It will be eaten tomorrow by openai, anthropic etc, so there is no product there; yet all is infested with these on sites like PH.
blakeburch · a year ago
Glad to see someone working on an alternative!

Personal note - I used to be a pretty frequent user of ProductHunt. Some folks I worked with jokingly called me the SaaS King. If you had a problem, I knew of 3 tools to potentially solve it.

The biggest reason why I stopped using ProductHunt was because people opted to submit and upvote low quality "list of X" aggregation services and minor updates, not real products. Hopefully you've thought about how to refine the curation.

Also, agreed with the feedback from muhammadusman about having a product page. Right now, it's just a list of links with synopsis - not enough to intrigue me to explore further.

klntsky · a year ago
Product hunt clones should all launch on each other
crowcroft · a year ago
We need to go meta and build a Product Hunt clone focussed on being the best Product Hunt clone directory.
stevekemp · a year ago
ProductHunt has been gamed to the extent that it's no longer in any way real - it's just who can spam the most.

What will stop your site from the same fate?

heyarviind2 · a year ago
I want to take an approach of Instagram algorithm, no matter what votes you have you will see all the products once every visit.
crowcroft · a year ago
Why do you think that's a good idea?
triyambakam · a year ago
How is the name supposed to be pronounced? It looks like the two English words hunt and lie which doesn't sound very nice.
codazoda · a year ago
I also read it as “hunt lie” instead of “hunt lee” FWIW.
makk · a year ago
Reminds me of expertsexchange.com before they put the hyphen in it (now experts-exchange.com)
OJFord · a year ago
Fwiw it parsed to me as 'Hun tile', certainly no better.

If it's meant to be hunt-lee per sibling comment then 'huntly' (with the domain hunt.ly) is by far the established (still-annoying) way to do that.

Brajeshwar · a year ago
I think he meant Huntly, but unfortunately, we Indians have our own idiosyncratic way with English. The founder/builder is Indian (I'm Indian, and I know).
OJFord · a year ago
Lie for lee though? That would make me read it like लिए / लिये
heyarviind2 · a year ago
it is pronounced as hunt-lee

https://www.names-hub.com/name/huntlie

trollied · a year ago
It really isn't though. Any native English speaker is going to see Hunt Lie.
joenot443 · a year ago
What you've linked is a site for human names, not product names.

English has funny cases where readers will implicitly pronounce personal names differently than they might products or brands.

hackernewds · a year ago
why not spell it Huntly? like most annoying apps do