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guywithahat · a year ago
This isn’t the first time it happened. When MtGox went insolvent, the price of bitcoin tanked and they had enough cash on hand to replace everyone’s funds, but the lawyers said no because there wasn’t enough fees.

This whole thing should have been resolved years ago, I still get bankruptcy emails and I feel bad for the poor soul who has to waste his whole career fighting over who gets the remaining sliver of money instead of doing something productive.

otoburb · a year ago
>>When MtGox went insolvent, the price of bitcoin tanked and they had enough cash on hand to replace everyone’s funds, but the lawyers said no because there wasn’t enough fees.

Which lawyers are you referring to that said "no because there weren’t enough fees"? Seems contradictory because lawyers at the time in 2014 had no idea that the value of the remaining digital assets would rise.

jrflowers · a year ago
I’m going to guess it might’ve been lawyers that are presently happy to have been able to bill hours for this for the past decade
throwup238 · a year ago
> I feel bad for the poor soul who has to waste his whole career fighting over who gets the remaining sliver of money instead of doing something productive.

Returning money is the most productive thing a lawyer can do.

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Lambdanaut · a year ago
Granted, individuals will only receive ~15% of their original claim, the increase in value over time will make it worth it for many.
panarky · a year ago
People lose their shirts in crypto because they lose it, trade it, and sell too soon.

The only proven way to make a killing in crypto is to be physically prevented from losing it, trading it, or selling it for ten years.

bearjaws · a year ago
They only lose their shirts because its speculative gambling... They are scared the same way the person betting on red is.
TacticalCoder · a year ago
> The only proven way to make a killing in crypto is to be physically prevented from losing it, trading it, or selling it for ten years.

Which is very well known in the crypto world with these two mantras:

    - "Not your keys, not your coins" (meaning one shouldn't trust anyone)

    - "HODL"   (aka "hold on to your coins")

9front · a year ago
The fear of losing is greater than the desire to win! So people trade or sell before a ten years timeframe.

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dragoncrab · a year ago
The background of the multiple hacks that led to the demise of Mt. Gox got a nice coverage on Darknet Diaries in 2017: https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/9/
qingcharles · a year ago
Ilya's little $5Bn stash is also going to cause issues now his case is over and I assume it is all forfeited by the US govt:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Bitfinex_hack

t0mas88 · a year ago
Wouldn't that be returned to the place it was stolen from?
qingcharles · a year ago
Well, the issue is that the bank covered everyone's losses at the time, from what I understand, but now all the account holders are asking for a share of this new booty that has been recovered.
teractiveodular · a year ago
Payouts still have not actually started. It is long been theorized that BTC prices will crash when they do, since the market will be flooded with people trying to finally realize their USD gains.
o_____________o · a year ago
I wonder if Bitforex, which was either taken offline as an exit scam or government intervention, is going to follow a similar path
darthrupert · a year ago
A few thibgs to say for MtGox and its founder: they were a frontline casualty in crypto exchanges, demonstrating irrefutably how important security is. Not everyone got the memo, but many did.

Also, they have been pretty good at accepting blame and trying to fix what they could.

elintknower · a year ago
Is there any way to identify if I'm a creditor with the email I registered with years ago?
timvdalen · a year ago
I received some letters in Japanese 10 years ago saying I was part of it, but I haven't really heard anything since
Lambdanaut · a year ago
It is far far too late to get paid. Several deadlines have passed.
caesil · a year ago
Wrong. Look at Self-Approved Claims here: https://claims.mtgox.com/faq

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kiririn · a year ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/94dkfi/how...

You're out of luck if you haven't archived a registration or password reset email

Also probably out of luck regardless due to deadlines