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Posted by u/junetic 2 years ago
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Staring at something for 30-90 seconds has been proven to improve & boost mental focus on subsequent tasks (from Andrew Huberman - https://youtu.be/CrtR12PBKb0?t=3367 ).

So I made something simple you can look at (and simultaneously meditate) for 1 minute to improve focus for your next task :) Let me know if it works for you

TheAceOfHearts · 2 years ago
My mind: initial resistance, I don't really wanna do it. Whatever I started it. Okay, focus on the circle. Wow this feels like it's taking a while. Oh I wonder how other people would react to being presented this. Some people would probably expect it to be some sort of scare jump prank. Back to focusing on the circle. What was the page called again? eyes go to URL bar Oh right, one minute focus. This is distracting I'll just start counting. 1, 2, [...], 42. Oh it finished.
Hnrobert42 · 2 years ago
Perfect! Your experience is the exact experience hoped for.

Many people give up on learning to meditation because they cannot clear their mind for X minutes straight. Their mind runs away, and they must bring it back to focus. They see this as failure.

Yet, this is exactly what is expected. How else to learn the invaluable skill of refocusing after distraction. If staring at a circle was so stimulating you never got distracted, then you would have no chance to build your focus muscles.

Note: this comment is mostly about the first steps into meditation. I learned this idea from Shinzo Young.

bayindirh · 2 years ago
> Many people give up on learning to meditation because they cannot clear their mind for X minutes straight. Their mind runs away, and they must bring it back to focus. They see this as failure.

This is what we say to our students. It'll run away. Just bring it back. It's OK.

The tool is great, BTW. Congrats. My only small gripe is the pulsation is too fast (for me). My relaxed breathe is 5 seconds inhale, 5 seconds exhale.

JohnFen · 2 years ago
> Many people give up on learning to meditation because they cannot clear their mind for X minutes straight. Their mind runs away, and they must bring it back to focus. They see this as failure.

Yes, this is a real block for lots of people. When I was teaching my children to meditate, I tried to head this off a bit by telling them "you'll probably find that your headvoice will keep chattering away at first. Let it. Don't really fight it. Just acknowledge without judgment, clear your mind again, and keep meditating. Your mind will grow quieter on its own as you practice more."

MisterBastahrd · 2 years ago
Some people give up because their brains simply don't work that way.

I decided to start going to a therapist for some issues I've encountered over the years. He took my background information and immediately dove into an entire diatribe about meditation. Without addressing a single thing I actually said. The thing is, I've attempted meditation over the years. Not only had I already read all of his recommended source material AND watched the videos he recommended, but I knew other sources that I rattled off to him as well, including entire books on controlled breathing. I spent 2 years with it and never got anywhere.

It does not work for me and I'm not putting myself through it again. I've got three or four separate trains of thought going on at all times. It's impossible to put a cork in all of them, it isn't helpful, and it's about as useful as prayer is to an atheist.

Asking someone who has been abused as a child to instead stare into the abyss is a cop-out. Meditation as a solution to depression and anxiety doesn't bring me calm. It makes me angry.

jdelman · 2 years ago
Who is Shinzo Young? I just did a Google search for that name and this comment was the first thing to show up.
bordercases · 2 years ago
Breathing slowly is a way to short circuit the mind.
compumike · 2 years ago
The stream-of-thought reminded me of this depiction of meditation: https://www.sippan.se/_images/meditation.jpg :)
nerdponx · 2 years ago
One of the biggest obstacles to any kind of mind-body practice is the sense that you NEED TO DO SOMETHING ELSE RIGHT NOW. It's a mental habit a lot of us build up over a life full of being busy with various tasks and concerns.

The way I get through it is to remind myself that the only reason to avoid doing anything is fear of death, and I know for sure that sitting here for 1 minute will not kill me, therefore I have no reason not to force myself to just do it.

93po · 2 years ago
I save comments from time to time that seem sort of obvious but still resonate with me, and this is one such comment. Thanks! :)
rwoerz · 2 years ago
My mind: (1) Open that page for about 3 seconds, (2) go back to HN, (3) skim through the comments, (4) realizing the irony, (5) commenting on that
6510 · 2 years ago
Try it again, this time keep in mind that your previous record was focusing for 3 seconds. I try to convince myself an effort is precisely as pathetic as it sounds.

Aim to make it all the way to 6 seconds. Tell yourself this is a major accomplishment for you - a 100% improvement.

Then you need to take a break, have something to eat. Stretch your muscles, do some shadow boxing and see how far you can make it beyond 12 seconds.

Scream inside your head, YES I'VE MADE IT!

The other thought processes deserve to be mocked like this.

altairTF · 2 years ago
Damn, i did the exact same...
manmal · 2 years ago
Meditation in a nutshell.
Zelphyr · 2 years ago
Agreed. The powerful part is, “Back to focusing on the circle.”
jalk · 2 years ago
Except I rarely think of goatsee when meditating
bzmrgonz · 2 years ago
From Huberman's notes, I think we are suppose to match the expansion of the dot with an inhaling motion. The mechanics, iirc, is to increase oxygen to the brain by deliberate long inhales.
lukas099 · 2 years ago
I hate timed controlled breathing exercises like that. The circle doesn't know the current oxygen needs of my body.
RHSman2 · 2 years ago
Basically how I felt in my ADHD assessments. ‘You won’t get me. I know what you are testing for. Hold the line. Hold. Oh, that’s why a sort is an expensive database function! Ooops’
xeromal · 2 years ago
I was thinking about a potential jump scare during the process and it makes me wonder if that's relegated to a specific generation (young gen x and older millenails). The early internet was chock full of things that tried to jump scare you. lol
once_inc · 2 years ago
There's a countdown in light grey at the bottom.
jimmydddd · 2 years ago
Ha. I was bracing for a jump scare also.
berniedurfee · 2 years ago
I was waiting for the Rick roll.

Dead Comment

jeffgreco · 2 years ago
I was a young internet user at the turn of the century so kept waiting for a jump scare -_-
throw310822 · 2 years ago
The first time I used a meditation app I could not stop laughing hysterically at the thought that the guy soothingly giving directions from the app might suddenly go BAAAAUAAARGH! just for the fun of it.
amflare · 2 years ago
I can never trust a meditation app for exactly this reason. I know there are too many trolls out there. This also reminds me of this skit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLZJxjCOplc
gigglesupstairs · 2 years ago
The first time I encountered such a jump scare was someone presenting their animation done in Macromedia Director. Not kidding, it was really traumatic in nature at the time. And I just didn’t get the fun others supposedly felt for this kind of “fun”.
globular-toast · 2 years ago
Indeed, my PTSD prevents me from doing this without inspecting the source code.
y-curious · 2 years ago
YEP! Came to the comments to see if I am just paranoid.
DLion · 2 years ago
Ahaha same, I thought about it for a few seconds
VladimirGolovin · 2 years ago
Very timely and helpful, thank you!

A suggestion: the pulse animation would look much better with ease-in / ease-out animation curves instead of the harsh linear curve it's currently using. EaseInOutSine from this cheat sheet would do fine: https://easings.net/

myfonj · 2 years ago
If you'd like to try those easings straight away, you can use this bare-bones rip-off in interactive sandbox [0]. Still basic: animation is symmetrical, so easing "in" has the same easing as "out", just reversed.

Under 2 kB total. HTML, mostly CSS and literally two lines of JS only for restarting the animation.

[0] https://myfonj.github.io/sandbox.html#%3C!doctype%20html%3E%...

KTibow · 2 years ago
Wait, why do you need anything other than CSS? Animations can have easing and loop indefinitely without JS.
dunno7456 · 2 years ago
Or some Newtonian like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-txrCMvdms (9m47s)
junetic · 2 years ago
Using tailwind. Animation should be slower and smoother now
thinkingtoilet · 2 years ago
A small piece of feedback. I started to breath naturally with the pulse of the circle then found it to be a little too fast. I think slowing the pulse down would be nice. And to add to what others have said, I think the contrast of the colors could be more pleasant. Thanks for sharing!
Karawebnetwork · 2 years ago
I feel the same. I've been using "Box Breathing" gifs* for a long while and this one here feels like I'm just making myself get out of breath with shallow breathing that do not fill my lungs. Perhaps it is the point but the page does not go into details.

* https://quietkit.com/box-breathing/

bewuethr · 2 years ago
I thought the same, and then thought it's maybe slowing down? And if it isn't, it would be nice.
smallerfish · 2 years ago
Right, agreed - it seems fast. What breathing frequency are you aiming for, and is there any science to it?

Also, you could think about extending to box breathing.

y-c-o-m-b · 2 years ago
Same here and it actually started triggering a little bit of anxiety in doing so (I take short breaths or hold my breath when anxious). Maybe it should utilize the 4-7-8 pattern.
addandsubtract · 2 years ago
I think it needs a pause at the end of each animation cycle. Like, I breathe in and then wait half a second before breathing back out. Same for the other way around.
junetic · 2 years ago
Thanks for the feedback. Slowed down and contrast issues have been addressed!
barbazoo · 2 years ago
Yes, what I felt too. Is there a secret query param by chance to control the baseline speed?
junetic · 2 years ago
Its slow now :)
zagrebian · 2 years ago
Maybe it would be better if the circle didn’t have such a high contrast. I don’t want a black circle burnt into my eyes after I’m done with this exercise.
hn8305823 · 2 years ago
I had a slightly different reaction: I was very distracted by the visual artifacts (brain processing, not the actual image), especially around the edge of the circle.
noir_lord · 2 years ago
I was as well - everytime I see one of these they also pause too briefly at the change over from inhale/exhale and back.

It's disconcerting because its not how I naturally breathe.

msluyter · 2 years ago
Indeed. I kept wondering if the circle was actually getting lighter as it got smaller or if that was just how I was perceiving it due to the afterimage and whatnot.
jonhohle · 2 years ago
Yes! In my periphery it looked like a polygon but when I focused on the edges it seemed like a properly antialiased circle.
junetic · 2 years ago
Hover on top of page to choose bg/contrast
DesiLurker · 2 years ago
I actually wanted reverse, dark page with pale white circle. it felt too bright.
stevage · 2 years ago
I use the browser extension Dark Reader and I found it a soothing low contrast.
wruza · 2 years ago
I believe everyone who wants dark mode actually wants Dark Reader instead. Also, half of the "dark mode"-enabled sites are more toxic to my eyes than their bright versions. Dark Reader allows to set the desired brightness, contrast, grayscale, etc.

It's one of extensions that makes you instantly regret you didn't install it earlier.

junetic · 2 years ago
good feedback! thanks
troyvit · 2 years ago
I enjoyed trying to tell if the circle had a 3d aspect to or not, and also trying to tell if it was completely black or actually dark dark gray. I'm not sure if I'm cognitively more focused but I'm going to try it again when I need that focus.
fnordsensei · 2 years ago
Speaking of Huberman, I've had great use of the physiological sigh[1] for dealing with stress.

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0OBgihk2f8

pksebben · 2 years ago
I recognize the irony of posting this in a thread about maintaining attention, but I could not sit through all that salesey preamble to get to whatever the sigh is supposed to be.

Culture gripe; I wish more creators got to the meat first, and added the long drawn out explanations later. I know why they don't (views == $$), but for real. I don't need your life story, just tell me how many onions I need to buy for the recipe.

emsixteen · 2 years ago
Thumbnail for that video is literally "Eliminate stress in seconds", but is an 11 minute video.
cl3misch · 2 years ago
> views == $$

No, in the current Youtube ecosystem it's "watchtime == $$". Maybe you meant that anyway, because it matches your actual comment way better.

kqr · 2 years ago
But if it was done that way, wouldn't the placebo effect be weaker?
phist_mcgee · 2 years ago
A big upvote for this too.

Incredibly skeptical that it could work, but repeating it 5-10 times in a row significantly calms me and fills me with a warm relaxed feeling for at least 10-15 minutes.

Semaphor · 2 years ago
Didn’t know it has a name, but I frequently do that when I’m not calm enough to sleep.
theGnuMe · 2 years ago
I do that, box breathing or even start a simple breathing meditation. Makes me yawn almost instantly.
junetic · 2 years ago
cool. so exhale longer than inhaling and repeat multiple times. I think this works. thanks for sharing
fnordsensei · 2 years ago
It's more of a double-take on the inhale. 1) Inhale 2) Microscopic pause 3) Inhale some more 4) Exhale longer than inhaling.

From what I've noticed, more than two inhales is fine, it still works. It just shouldn't be an uncomfortable amount of air in the lungs.

I've also noticed that my dog does this when he's about to go to sleep.

theGnuMe · 2 years ago
yeah basically it is how you breathe after sobbing intensely.
gpmcadam · 2 years ago
I waited around 30 seconds for this page to load before I gave up.

I can't say it improved my focus but I did appreciate the 30s of calm. Good work!

MisterKent · 2 years ago
I like the idea, and the simplicity of the site.

Two minor requests:

- Ability to hide the timer at the bottom completely (one less distraction for my brain)

- Dark mode (or maybe selectable colors?) -- I think it could be useful right before going to bed, clear my mind out etc.

Ideally, both could be saved to local storage so the settings persist.

junetic · 2 years ago
Thank you for the great suggestions! Will add them to the list
junetic · 2 years ago
Timer hidden. Dark mode addded!