Stolen? You were paid for and took the job you knew was a certain distance and commute away from your home.
I believe employees have to start to get used to being paid less when working remote. People who work in an office or factory have to be rewarded for this commute. Some jobs cannot be made remote.
I assume a lot of people working remote also like the fact that they can do the laundry, clean the house, do some errands etc during the working day. This flexibility should also allow the salary for remote workers to be lower than for people working in an office.
While true, it does highlight the fact that white collar jobs are diverse, and not all of them require one to be in the office. In fact, most of probably do not.
I am now back to a developer role, rather than being a manager (by my own choosing). I am much more productive (and actually communicate more with my colleagues (!)) when I work from home. Luckily my terms allow me to choose where I work from when by my-self.
Off topic, but I’ve been thinking about doing the same, I’ve seen other people at my level take pay cuts of only 10%~ going from management to IC while erasing meetings from their calendars
I’m kinda jealous, the only thing that is keeping me in management roles is the fantasy that the perfect company will come along with the right product, right growth stage but that is looking unlikely in this economy.
Recently someone posted an office etiquette post on our intranet, citing all you should do or avoid so that your coworkers can work and focus comfortably.
The person posting it probably though it was helpful, but it was just showing how an hell of a place offices have become since they went the open space route.
I’d like a good write-up. My current boss has this tendency to interrupt anyone when he is not doing something, let daily stand-ups go into 30-40 minutes, and ask everyone to gather for spontaneous group meetings regardless of their ability to contribute or how important their current task is. I’m not very good at phrasing this criticism positively, and while I have addressed some of them, little has happened. I try to educate myself to become a better leader, and I only want to help him do the same.
Some in my company argue that remote is the way to go but when it comes to traveling to another office on another continent, it suddenly becomes so important to meet colleagues in person and they stay here for weeks or months, all while making weekend hops to vacation destinations.
This is quite an editorialized title... it makes the CEO look like they have an extreme viewpoint, but in reality it sounded like the CEO had a pretty based and nuanced take: never enforce remote, and recognize that different kinds of work require more in office than others.
The only thing that I disagreed with was the "we don't want to lose our stars" mentality. Your mentality should not be about pushing people as far as you can until you have retention problems. Rather, it should be to inform people and provide them with opportunities to be productive in whatever way they prefer, and cut them lose if their output is not sufficient. Make decisions by outputs - not inputs.
I guess "drops a bomb" is a little over the top but the rest of the title are just facts. Salesforce really did ask people to come back, and he did indeed say he doesn't work well in an office.
It seems fair to use some amount of propaganda to push the "I want to work from home" agenda, since companies pushing "return to work" are also playing that same game.
I agree that he seems to have nuance on the topic, but the playing field seems to have already abandoned fair play.
It may be fair to do so but not necessarily effective. People tend to start tuning out what they see as hyperbole.
The companies may seem to get away with it, but not because they use a particular language tactic. They have the power to back up their "opinion" by firing people. People who want to keep their job may stop arguing, not because they buy the BS framing but because they have bills to pay.
The folks who hope to take a stand in the interest of worker's rights would be better served by trying hard to stick to the facts, promote nuanced discussions and not let the companies drag them into this kind of pissing contest.
Not that much. And I just read hacker news while sitting on the train which I was going to do if sitting at home anyway.
I believe employees have to start to get used to being paid less when working remote. People who work in an office or factory have to be rewarded for this commute. Some jobs cannot be made remote.
I assume a lot of people working remote also like the fact that they can do the laundry, clean the house, do some errands etc during the working day. This flexibility should also allow the salary for remote workers to be lower than for people working in an office.
Salesforce is a publicly traded billion dollar company, not an early stage startup.
I’m kinda jealous, the only thing that is keeping me in management roles is the fantasy that the perfect company will come along with the right product, right growth stage but that is looking unlikely in this economy.
The person posting it probably though it was helpful, but it was just showing how an hell of a place offices have become since they went the open space route.
Try this?^
The only thing that I disagreed with was the "we don't want to lose our stars" mentality. Your mentality should not be about pushing people as far as you can until you have retention problems. Rather, it should be to inform people and provide them with opportunities to be productive in whatever way they prefer, and cut them lose if their output is not sufficient. Make decisions by outputs - not inputs.
He seems to have some nuance and flexibility on the issue that some people lack.
I agree that he seems to have nuance on the topic, but the playing field seems to have already abandoned fair play.
The companies may seem to get away with it, but not because they use a particular language tactic. They have the power to back up their "opinion" by firing people. People who want to keep their job may stop arguing, not because they buy the BS framing but because they have bills to pay.
The folks who hope to take a stand in the interest of worker's rights would be better served by trying hard to stick to the facts, promote nuanced discussions and not let the companies drag them into this kind of pissing contest.
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WE MUST STUDY THIS NEW PHENOMENON CLOSELY