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Tumblewood · 3 years ago
Some of my favorite pairs from the big list:

misrelation / orientalism; superintended / unpredestined; incorporate / procreation (don't mind if i do!); predators / teardrops (a cause and effect); counteridea / reeducation (a bit synonymous); streamlined / derailments (quite opposite!); truculent / unclutter; colonialist / oscillation; renavigate / vegetarian; persistent / prettiness; paternoster / penetrators (hmm); obscurantist / subtractions; nectarines / transience (a story of ripeness); definability / identifiably; indiscreet / iridescent; excitation / intoxicate; discounter / reductions (how logical!)

One small suggestion I have: add a point for pairs with different starting letters, and another point for pairs with different ending letters.

rob74 · 3 years ago
Also "Xenoparasite Exasperation" - would have made a great title for a 1960s/70s Sci-Fi B movie...
croisillon · 3 years ago
in French we have chien (dog) / niche (doghouse)
carlmr · 3 years ago
Almost verlan!
myoldohiohome · 3 years ago
I'm a non-coding lurker here, but the only thing that ever motivated me to write my own program was to solve the newspaper anagram puzzle, "Jumble", faster than my wife. I wrote it in Basic, then re-wrote it in assembly language, I forget when. Then in Fortran while home bound during the first summer of the pandemic - to atone for my past sin of neglecting to learn Fortran when I had a chance in the late 1960's.
mock-possum · 3 years ago
I dunno man, I’ve never heard of a “non-coder” rewriting the same program in three languages, including one round ‘just because’
mjd · 3 years ago
About thirty years ago I had an account on a computer system that had a Boggle game, and I got tired of losing to it. So I wrote a program (in C!) which, when run, would search the grid and print out a list of all the words it found. Since I was using a bigger dictionary than the Boggle game itself, I found a lot more words. Ha ha, take that!

I proudly boasted to a friend about my winning Boggle solver and they said it was the pettiest thing they had ever heard of.

lurquer · 3 years ago
I did the same thing! I stumbled upon an old ‘Al Zimmerman’ programming contest that involved creating wordsearch grids with the most words possible. I had a technique in mind, wrote it in BASIC. Then realized that was too slow. So I tried it in Java (which I’d heard was easy… it wasn’t… st least not to me). And then finally wrote it in C++, a language I found perfect in all respects. I actually ranked near the top in that contest, and I’ve been programming ever since. Ironically, I write programs to make puzzle books and I even have a Jumble knock-off on Amazon (sans cartoons… can’t draw worth a damn.)
mxuribe · 3 years ago
With respect, the moment you mentioned "re-wrote it in assembly language"...you stopped being a non-coder! :-) By the way, very cool use of technolgoy for somewhat everyday things (solving puzzles).
jodrellblank · 3 years ago
I did similar for a newspaper puzzle unscrambler, pushing to rewrite it in lower level languages (PowerShell then C# then Rust) and changing algorithm (from sort letters, to precompute lookup hashtable of sorted letters, to multiply prime numbers one for each alphabet letter to drop the overhead of sorting, to lookup hash of those, to sorting the integer results into an array to do a binary search through and jump to the matching offset in an answers array and inlining those in the code) until it was near enough instant.

... and I don't use it, because unjumbling the word myself is satisfying, but typing the letters into a computer and getting the answer isn't.

_a_a_a_ · 3 years ago
> to multiply prime numbers one for each alphabet letter to drop the overhead of sorting

how does that work?

hoosieree · 3 years ago
We regret to inform you that you are now a former non-coder.
pdpi · 3 years ago
My personal favourite is that an anagram of Banach-Tarski is Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski.
adammarples · 3 years ago
Guess what the B in "Benoit B. Mandelbrot" stands for?
pdpi · 3 years ago
Given that he added that middle "initial" himself and he didn't actually have a middle name, I like thinking that he added it precisely to make that joke work. Probably not true, but I still like it.
Aeolun · 3 years ago
Just like in the original, I think it’s only going to work in theory.
layer8 · 3 years ago
It only has a score of 6 though, in the typical formulation.
jdthedisciple · 3 years ago
aha, I see what you did there
croisillon · 3 years ago
underrated comment
psychoslave · 3 years ago
Deductions Kramer.
kmoser · 3 years ago
That was pretty good for a one-word anagram. Back in the 1990s I wrote a program that generated anagrams for longer phrases and I was surprised to find these prescient ones:

Saddam Hussein = He damns Saudis

Charles Manson = Slasher con man

David Letterman = Dead mitral vent

Mary Jo Kopechne = My joke chaperon *

Benito Mussolini = So, I bout Leninism

Lee Harvey Oswald = Oe, why ever Dallas? *

* "Chaperon" is a valid alternate spelling of "chaperone"

** Yes, "oe" is a word

kthejoker2 · 3 years ago
Clint Eastwood = Old West Action is still my favorite serendiptious anagram.

I also like the mathematically correct

ELEVEN PLUS TWO = TWELVE PLUS ONE

especially because it's also an numeric anagram

11 + 2 = 12 + 1

mfragin · 3 years ago
Things like that explain how some people get obsessed with numerology. Except, I find the anagrams like you and the previous commenter mentioned to be more impressive than anything numerologists produce.

Some of those are almost creepy in how they make so much sense.

jodrellblank · 3 years ago
And it’s 13 letters long
madcaptenor · 3 years ago
The Spanish translation of this is ONCE MAS CUATRO = CATORCE MAS UNO (11 + 4 = 14 + 1).
hliyan · 3 years ago
Mother in law = Woman Hitler is another classic
raverbashing · 3 years ago
> ELEVEN PLUS TWO = TWELVE PLUS ONE

Goedel's incompleteness theorem fans would be drooling all over this

jameshart · 3 years ago
The most remarkable name anagram for me remains that of 1990s UK conservative Health Secretary and government minister Virginia Bottomley (now Baroness Bottomley of Nettlestone), whose name rearranges to “I’m an evil Tory bigot”.

In terms of this ‘chunk scoring’ method this scores very high (15 I think?), which definitely confirms its value as a way of rating anagram quality.

pfdietz · 3 years ago
Ronald Wilson Reagan = Insane Anglo Warlord
eesmith · 3 years ago
Dick Cavett, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/04/style/dick-cavett-intervi...

> I guess I’ll be known for nothing more than being the man who realized that “Spiro Agnew” was “grow a penis.” Gore Vidal said, “It could be ‘grow a spine,’ too, but yours is better.”

Boy, they're really socking it to that Spiro Agnew guy again.

kmoser · 3 years ago
Also "Orwellian radon snag"
mjd · 3 years ago
I did Wikipedia article titles and found:

Atlantic casino resort spa / Carter assassination plot

OJFord · 3 years ago
That would make an excellent 'not to be confused with'.
jstimpfle · 3 years ago
How many generated anagrams do you have to skim through to find these gems? Was the program written in a way that limits the output to phrases that make at least some sense?
kmoser · 3 years ago
It had features for things like limiting output to anagrams that contain a maximum number of words, or words with a minimum length, so you wouldn't have to slog through every permutation. Usually the most interesting ones had the fewest words. But "interesting" is subjective so if you really wanted to find juicy ones you would have to spend more time combing through the results by hand.

You can find the documentation, a Win32 executable, and the source code here: https://www.kmoser.com/anagrams/

carlob · 3 years ago
Yeah but chaperon would be masculine and chaperone feminine.
kmoser · 3 years ago
Ted Kennedy, her "chaperon," was male, so it works perfectly. Although I don't think the difference between the spellings is a gender thing, but rather a British/American thing.
_jholland · 3 years ago
This is great! It reminds me of a Tom7 video of a similar ilk: Anagrams, but where you can break apart letters: "Anagraphs" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTBAW-Eh0tM.

Similar to this, he produces a standard form for each word, but breaks each letter into letter pieces or 'atoms' which gives much more freedom for moving between words.

Definitely give it a watch. If you are not familiar with Tom7's videos, he has a hilarious whimsical style while also bringing to life completely out there ideas with some brilliant technical skill.

NoZebra120vClip · 3 years ago
Don't forget the utterly classic anagrams we made out of "Information Superhighway" when that term was first introduced to a skeptical public.

https://ad1c.us/infobahn.htm

intrasight · 3 years ago
LOL. Those a great. I encourage folks to look.
aqme28 · 3 years ago
Writing a program to find grammatically correct sentence anagrams seems like quite the challenge.
hoosieree · 3 years ago
Some gems in there, like

    human parties | puritan shame

fingerlocks · 3 years ago
I thought integrals / triangles was much more interesting, despite the shorter length. None of the other long pairs have any meaningful relationship, except for maybe excitation / intoxicate
albert_e · 3 years ago
What you don't think all married people are admirers of sidearms /s

> 7 admirer married > 7 admires sidearm

bombcar · 3 years ago
This one reminded me of those captcha cartoons that were popular for awhile. “Admires sidearm” in curved writing and a simple drawing.
layer8 · 3 years ago
It seemed to me that integral/triangle (singular) should really get the same score.
bitwize · 3 years ago
Megachiropterans are fruit bats. They are really stinking adorable, especially when compared to smaller insect-eating bats, and for that reason are sometimes called flying foxes. In short, they make good subjects for cinematographers.