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Posted by u/rlei 3 years ago
Lumina Desk – digital desk for health and productivitygetlumina.com/desk...
We’re Mike and Raymond – cofounders at Lumina. We’re excited to share what we’ve been working on, the Lumina Desk (https://getlumina.com/desk).

Last January, we founded Lumina with the mission of building the next-generation workspace.

We started off by launching a product called the Lumina Webcam, essentially a modern webcam that uses software to make you look good.

Building hardware is hard, and it’s been no different for us. We ran an Indiegogo campaign in September that raised ~$700k, scrambled to figure out hardware production (encountering every obstacle you can imagine - customs, supplier issues, parts incompatibilities), and chewed through enough glass in order to start shipping in December. But between then and now, we’ve scaled up production and have gotten some great customer feedback.

Next: we’re building the desk. We set out to rethink this centuries-old product and figure out how to make it into a more useful, productivity enhancing tool.

To start, we’re viewing the desk as a digital device, not just a mechanical one. Your desk could be an extension of your digital workspace; a complement to your phone and computer.

So we’re designing the Lumina Desk to have an embedded display. The thought is: from your desk, you’ll be able to check your calendar, receive call and chat notifications, and more. Or you can install (or build your own) apps to further customize it.

Think of the browser tabs that you keep open to occasionally glance at – the ones with dashboards or calendars or news feeds. These can now be in your desk, playing a role similar to a paper calendar or newspaper, but now in a seamlessly digital format.

With a digital desk, it can also play an active role in your health. Like a way to schedule times to sit or stand, or sensors that detect ergonomic input, or an in-desk dashboard that shows you your health stats.

Finally, we surveyed all the desks on the market and were surprised that few of them had the core fundamentals people want. How many desks have enough cable storage to hide all your cables? Enough usb and 110v sockets to power your workstation? Enough wireless charging space to charge all your wireless devices? These features should be tablestakes for any professional desk.

We’re in the early days of the desk, and there’s still room to shape the development of the product. If you have ideas on how we make the ultimate workspace, reach out and let us know. If you might be interested in building apps, we’d love to talk to you about building our first few apps.

Thanks so much for reading this. There’s a ton of work to be done, and your early support means a lot to us.

dang · 3 years ago
You can't do a Show HN with just a signup page. There needs to be a way for people to try out the product. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.

A physical product such as a desk obviously can't be tried out over the internet, but the product needs to physically exist and there needs to be some meaningful way to look it over.

xwowsersx · 3 years ago
Looks very slick. I'm not sure I understand why I'd want stock prices and social feeds on my desk though, but I guess that's configurable. I imagine this is a personal preference thing, but I've never really understood the appeal of having task lists and such in my face all the time, whether it be on a watch or a widget on my phone home screen or wherever. If I'm managing tasks, I'll open up my task list and then shove it out of my way. If there's something timely, I'll get a notification, etc. The idea of an always-on or even available-at-a-glance task list or any similar information source just doesn't make much sense to me. Even looking at my wrist while I'm at my desk arguably takes longer than cmd + tab to whichever app on my desktop contains my tasks.

I really do hate to seem so negative about something that does seem quite cool, but I feel that in general, there's a kind of addictive, porny aspect to productivity and workspace hacking type stuff, whereby people spend an inordinate amount of time and energy trying to optimize things that really are the least in need of optimization. Weather? Available at a glance on all my devices which I'm always near. Stocks? Don't wanna see 'em, but if I did, also available at a glance. Ditto for tasks as I mentioned above.

In fact, it seems to me that my desk is one of the few, physical, tactile pieces of "equipment" in my workspace that is free from any digital interference and I'd much prefer to keep it that way.

It's just very hard for me to imagine how I don't _lose_ rather than gain focus or productivity by sticking more information in my face while I'm working.

Am I missing something?

Still, congrats on a very sharp looking product launch (is it launched?)!

weego · 3 years ago
No you're not missing something. This is aimed at the tech person equivalent of Instagram bullet journalers, where the act of decorating pages and writing tasks is the goal as well as the process.

I don't get it either but I can at least see the appeal.

matt_s · 3 years ago
I agree, seems like it would be very distracting to have something, doesn't matter what, constantly scrolling/updating on a non-primary display. I purposely put weather, stocks, news, social, etc. out of the way so I can focus on work. On Mac this is just the side-bar thingy with widgets for those things.

My todo lists are always pen/paper because digital ones do not work for me. I get that there are people that use digital task lists and work well with them. I like having a desktop I can write on or not worry about spilling drinks on too.

I just got a sit/stand desk and have been watching various youtube videos on desk accessories and there is a whole category of what I would call desk porn - amazing looking, beautiful setups, tidy wires, special lighting, etc. that are just impractical from a daily need to do work perspective. They seem staged for the sole purpose of taking fancy pictures of them. This desk looks geared for people that want to mimic those desk setups. I'll stick to my post-it notes here and there, notebooks, real books, toys, etc. littered across my desk.

xwowsersx · 3 years ago
> They seem staged for the sole purpose of taking fancy pictures of them.

Yeah, exactly. And well said. It's like, I'll look at such products and think "wow!", but simultaneously I'm thinking "this is the exact opposite of the type of setup that someone who is serious about focusing on their work would want."

mikkergp · 3 years ago
Slack would be interesting. I have two displays now, one for work, one for monitoring/slack/logs etc. Though I often use the second display for a web browser to read one thing while working on another. The second monitor always felt like overkill, but it is very functional. The only problem with this is the ergonomics. Would the keyboard get in the way? Do I have to stand up or like lift myself to read it? It seems like it would have to tilt up to be functional.
michaelxia · 3 years ago
tools enable people to do more things. those things can increase or decrease productivity. at the end of the day, it's largely defined by individual settings.

examples: * if you in ops or management, and are in comm mode daily, need calls / messages with your team, this keeps you hooked up to everything going on. * if you are in engineering or research, and want to go into deep focus, you can use the widgets for things like code, logs, a lofi playlist, etc. * if you're a degen trader, you can also load up 5 twitter widgets and a stonk chart.

sure if the engineer used a degen trader dashboard, it would be counter productive. Google can't stop me from opening reddit / youtube on my browser, I don't blame them for making me less productive.

helipad · 3 years ago
Good luck, and seems like a nicely executed product. There's certainly demand in the prosumer home office market – lots of money being spent there.

Personally, I'm surprised that showing more information is frequently correlated with an _increase_ in productivity. I see many 'inspiration' setups with multiple screens, often taken up by a single app like Twitter or Spotify, and they feel like distractions, not productivity boosts.

It seems like this would be used as a more embedded version of a second screen, which I gave up on because its main purpose was to take my attention away from what was on my main screen (I recognize there are times when side-by-side screens are helpful, just not that often for me).

ziddoap · 3 years ago
Slick product, by the looks of it.

Not having even a rough price is rather annoying, though. I'd rather not give up my contact information and reserve a desk just to find out it's like $40,000 or something.

digdugdirk · 3 years ago
Out of curiosity - have you actually prototyped this? Or is everything on that website just a rendering?

Also, having worked in the space, it seems like you're missing some key features of enterprise workstations - chief among them is supporting monitor arms for external monitors.

jfim · 3 years ago
Good catch, it looks like the channel that's used to stuff cables in wouldn't work with clamp style monitor arms.
egypturnash · 3 years ago
Prominently absent: any hint as to how much this will cost.

Are there actually people who manage to keep their desk empty enough for these screens to be visible? Mine's got an ever-shifting pile of reference books, notebooks and keepsakes right where those are sitting. If I clean it off this stuff will accumulate again rapidly.

egypturnash · 3 years ago
Anyway, thanks for the accidental reminder to spend a little time cleaning the pile of mail off my desk, and refreshing the tape that keeps some cables stuck to its underside. Now I can see most of the Mardi Gras doubloons that are scattered across its surface to provide a happy, healthy environment for the toy dragons under the monitor.
dsmmcken · 3 years ago
Maybe I missed it, but can you give a ballpark price?

Without specific dimensions for the display its hard to figure out how big, and where the display actually sits. There's not much room between the legs of my monitor stand, and the top of my keyboard, and even less so with a desk mat.

1stcity3rdcoast · 3 years ago
I've been a Lumina Camera user for almost a year now and I've been impressed with two things: the quality of the camera, but also the Lumina team's approach to improvements. They ship updates constantly and the software gets better all the time. I'm excited to see that same approach to such a cool new product.