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spaceisballer · 3 years ago
I’m not surprised that the iPad has a decline. My son has a few year old 9.7” iPad and it works great still. Consume media very easily and even have games. I can notice the difference between it and my 2018 iPad Pro but I could see people are just not going buy new ones every year or two. I’d like the M1 iPad Pro but it’s not worth the jump in price.
hollandheese · 3 years ago
Yeah. Until Apple presents a good software reason to upgrade an iPad, most people are just going to stick with the iPad they have until it breaks.
_ph_ · 3 years ago
Indeed, I think the artificial restrictions on iPadOS are the #1 reason the iPad isn't eating up a larger part of the laptop space. Until software on the iPad becomes more useful, there is less reason to upgrade.
webmobdev · 3 years ago
Yeah, an iPad is mostly a "consumption" device and better screens or faster processors or more speakers aren't much of an incentive to upgrade the device when you also consider the higher cost. I guess that is why Apple has been trying to turn it into a laptop like device with the iPad Pro + keyboard. But then, when you consider the limitations of iPadOS, it's becomes very hard to justify the higher cost for the Pro when a laptop is cheaper and more productive for the same use case.
tmp_anon_22 · 3 years ago
Outside niche games that require performance, there is just no reason to upgrade a dumb media device.
AlchemistCamp · 3 years ago
I use mine mostly for drawing.
sillysaurusx · 3 years ago
Apple Pencil! iPad with procreate is bread and butter.

It was what got me to go for the pro.

noahtallen · 3 years ago
The 2018 iPad 6th gen is also compatible with the Apple Pencil :)
shaman1 · 3 years ago
My ipad mini 2nd edition works well but a number of apps are no longer available due the fact that they require a minimum os version. They will force upgrade by not providing software updates.
outside1234 · 3 years ago
Mac was the fastest growing hardware product too

(ref: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/28/apple-aapl-earnings-q2-2022....)

malshe · 3 years ago
Btw, the repurchase program just got way bigger:

> The board of directors has also authorized an increase of $90 billion to the existing share repurchase program.

candiddevmike · 3 years ago
Is the "Services" category under Net Sales where they're sticking the app store/B2B service revenue (ads, payments)?
ksec · 3 years ago
Yes.
didip · 3 years ago
And yet, the stock goes down. Market expectation is truly unpredictable. FB missed revenue expectation and went up.
Someone · 3 years ago
If you assume the market estimates the true value of a company, any reasonable model will have it predict a company’s value with an error that may be either too high or too low.

When a new data point comes in, the market adjusts its estimate. That can be lower than it was, certainly if its previous estimate was too high.

It seems the market expected Apple to do even better.

username_my1 · 3 years ago
Because of something called P/E ratio
dubcanada · 3 years ago
That has about as much to do with earnings as a coin flip. If it was entirely that everyone would just buy based on P/E. and since that’s a public number all stocks would be predictable. Instead we have TSLA at 128 P/E and AAPL at 28 P/E, MDB is at 9 P/E and was -2 a few months ago. None of that makes sense it’s purely speculation. I’ve seen stocks completely miss and fly off good guidance. And stocks beat by a lot and sell off because there is no volume.
shapefrog · 3 years ago
>Because of something called P/E ratio

It is not.

It is about guidence for the next quater - Apple Posted Another Great Quarter. The Next One Might Not Be As Good. (apple themselves say)

tomatowurst · 3 years ago
supply chain issues
malshe · 3 years ago
Net sales: $97 billion

Operating income: $30 billion

Net income: $25 billion

Net sales by category in millions -

iPhone : $50,570

Mac: $10,435

iPad: $7,646

Wearables, Home and Accessories: $8,806

Services: $19,821

simulate-me · 3 years ago
Services at 40% of iPhone revenue is pretty amazing.
zaphirplane · 3 years ago
What !! Mac 20% of the iPhone cash cow, come on hire 20 more devs for macOS

I know m1 switch took some effort

olliej · 3 years ago
"Apple Reports Second Quarter Results Revenue up 9 percent to new March quarter record

Services revenue reaches new all-time high"

For anyone like me who didn't want to actually have to go a read them :D

Revenue: B$97.3, up 9% EPS: $1.52 Operating Cashflow: B$28 Returned B$27 to shareholder (buybacks, dividends I assume?)

Ah:

Divided: $0.23/share Share pepurchase fund increase: B$90

floatinglotus · 3 years ago
These earnings are insane! Check out the P/E of the stock tomorrow even after it goes up at the open, the stock is still a steal at this price.
adam_arthur · 3 years ago
25-30x PE is not a steal lol. What kind of funny math is that?
dannyw · 3 years ago
I like to buy my companies at about 15x P/E.