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virtualritz · 6 years ago
That reminds me of another headline from last month that was right up the Monty Python alley too: ”Turkmenistan Has Banned Use Of The Word ‘Coronavirus’”

As a friend who’s a standup comedian said in response to reading that: “Brilliant, why didn’t our government think of this? We wouldn’t have all these problems.”

[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/0...

belltaco · 6 years ago
That's literally the case with 'climate change' being banned from government discussions and reports in the federal govt in the US and in various states.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/08/trump-...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/03/09/florida-bans...

wrs · 6 years ago
Recall that the US President wanted to keep a cruise ship from docking because "I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault". If your career is built on the principle that perception trumps reality, it's hard to adjust when reality doesn't cooperate.
frozenlettuce · 6 years ago
The Brazilian supreme court already decided that state governors and city mayors can impose regional lockdowns. Most cities are already with restrictive measures and this event is not going to change that.
romwell · 6 years ago
Good luck to all Brazilians. They'll need it.
sebastianconcpt · 6 years ago
Heat is providing a lot of natural defense. Things are already going way better than predicted.
zzleeper · 6 years ago
Why didn't weather help Guayaquil? It's the worst hit city in SA yet is one of the most tropical ones.
soneca · 6 years ago
One of worst Brazilian states is one of the hottest (Ceará).
soneca · 6 years ago
It is hard to predict the future, but despite the former Health minister indeed have being fired for clashing with Bolsonaro views, there is not much indication that the policy will in fact change now.

It became a ego dispute in the last days, but original rumors that the role would be occupied by someone without health expertise that would follow Bolsonaro orders to the letter were wrong. The new minister is also a doctor who hinted that lockdown is necessary before.

I believe Bolsonaro leadership is a disaster and more people will die because of his actions and speeches. I just don't think today's announcement will change much. It will not get worse.

The governors here don't have that much autonomy as in the US, but they have enough to define what will indeed happen in the streets. This won't change with the new minister.

gtirloni · 6 years ago
After having undermined most of the efforts of his own health minister, Bolsonaro can't do much worse, I agree.
ashtonkem · 6 years ago
Bolsonaro believes that he’s personally immune because he’s an “athlete”.

Wish I was kidding.

sebastianconcpt · 6 years ago
Isn't that recover of viral diseases which we don't have vaccines for are a function of immune system's response?
grolimpio · 6 years ago
It's not that simple in cases where our immune system can also act as the villain [1][2].

We sure can act like irrational animals and play the natural selection card (and leave people to die an excruciating death), but I personally prefer to slow down the almost inevitable [3], so our health system has more time to cope with the situation as well as they can.

[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/07/8280914...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/11/science/how-c...

[3] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-13/coronavir...

ashtonkem · 6 years ago
Yes and no. As a sibling pointed out, for some viruses it’s your own immune system that kills you.

Also being athletic doesn’t really confer a magic boost to your immune system that overcomes age. It’s better than being obese and out of shape, but it isn’t going to magically restore your immune system to that of a 20 year old.

Also, having seen videos of Bolsonaro doing “push-ups”, I’d say that formerly athletic is closer to the mark.

x3n0ph3n3 · 6 years ago
I know we're talking about people's lives, but maybe the world needs to see a country get it devastatingly wrong.
mikepurvis · 6 years ago
mchusma · 6 years ago
I don't understand the Sweden example. Their daily % increase in deaths is well below California. I don't know if there is a difference in counting deaths but Sweden seems to be doing ok relative to other countries. I have heard that they are effectively shut down voluntarily, so government action was not needed but the effect has been the same. Maybe a Swede can weigh in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_C...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in...

icelancer · 6 years ago
Far too early to say this is "devastatingly wrong." The number under the curve matters more than random spikes (that don't oversaturate the health system, BTW).
perl4ever · 6 years ago
Does it make any difference one way or the other? If the response is vital, then some country will get it "devastatingly wrong", and then won't that produce a new wave after a bit everywhere else?

Won't that just be a sequel to the first cycle, where things seemed under control, it was downplayed, and then it got going outside of China. Why should anyone expect other than a fractal replay?

romwell · 6 years ago
I wish the effects were limited to the politicians making the decisions.

Perhaps Boris Johnson's attitude will change a little bit now, for example.

cosmodisk · 6 years ago
It will be quite the opposite,I think. The Brazilian president had it as well and here's the article about his actions.
reinkaos · 6 years ago
It is already happening in the US.
JamisonM · 6 years ago
I think Russia is already setting that example, really no need for two.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/covid-19-russia-spike-cases-1....

vtail · 6 years ago
Moscow and most of the other places in Russia are on a complete lockdown for more than a week now - much stricter that eg. NY or California. I’m not sure what do you mean by your comment.
2019-nCoV · 6 years ago
Russia is honestly handling the crisis better than most of the western world. They've done >1.6M tests with a positivity rate of 1.7%.
aaomidi · 6 years ago
Workers having to die so their masters can add another zero to their bank accounts.

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