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ackbar03 · 6 years ago
I'm guessing some on the hacker news crowd already know this but the author neal Stephenson also wrote Crytonomicon which was the prerequisite reading book for the PayPal mafia back in the days. I've personally only read his book reamde but the accuracy in detail in the novels really reflect quite deep understanding of the tech world including the shadier parts
fmajid · 6 years ago
Cryptonomicon is OK, but far inferior to Snow Crash and The Diamond Age. I think the latter is an incredibly inspiring vision of technology used for good, as opposed to how today’s best and brightest are focusing their energy into increasing ad click-through conversion rates by 3%.
IggleSniggle · 6 years ago
Diamond Age was amazing when I read it in 2008. I couldn’t believe it had been written in ‘95, given its vision of (what we call) 3d printers, Amazon Turks, software mediated 1:1 relationships, etc. I imagine reading it today, it would read as a likely near-future-history, but in 95 it must have seemed laden with far-fetched original invention, both technological and societal.
oarabbus_ · 6 years ago
Hmm, I read Snow Crash a few years back, mainly due to the praise. It was certainly a good book, but quite honestly I felt it was overrated. I'm in my late 20s, and it's very possible the book was revolutionary and groundbreaking in 1992, but it does show some age nowadays.
kragen · 6 years ago
Even though the technology was mostly “used for good” it was still a nightmarish dystopia except for the tiny elite phyles. Nanotech was under tight centralized control, as the Foresight Foundation recommends, in the book, but numerous disasters happened anyway. Most of the population lived lives of miserable degradation despite enjoying material abundance due to the assemblers.
maxerickson · 6 years ago
The Diamond Age is set in a horrifying dystopia.

It's also not real clear that the outcome of the primer is a positive for the Mouse Army.

russh · 6 years ago
Most of Diamond Age is incredible, the rest not so much.
KineticLensman · 6 years ago
I love as a book Cryptonomicon but

...Spoilers....

the specific near-future tech product that Stephenson suggested in it never happened – he didn’t in 1999 predict ubiquitous smartphones even though they were less than a decade away. In contrast, Reamde still seems ‘right’ but that’s because it doesn’t contain technology predictions.

I downloaded the article to see if see if it also contained predictions, and if so, whether they were accurate. In classic Stephenson style, the article is a long (60 page) discursive essay, so my check might take a while….

komali2 · 6 years ago
SUPER SPOILERS

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cryptonomicon wasn't quite supposed to be predictive, though it did "predict" crypto currency. It was and always has been science Fiction, evidence being - ask yourself, how did Enoch Root die in Switzerland and then appear later in a jail cell in the Philippines?

The question was surprisingly answered in "Fall, or Dodge in Hell" in a way I really wasn't expecting but did make it clear that this was an entirely made up universe.

Think of Stephenson's answer to the question, "why call what is obvious Linux, 'Finux?'" He wrote, "for the same reason it's metropolis and not new York." He wanted to be allowed to do whatever he wanted to without horde of Linux users filling up his (now non-existent) inbox. Same for his universe - like ours, but dissimilar enough to allow him to get away with pretty much anything.

alchemism · 6 years ago
As far as predictions go, out of all of them I’m still of the opinion that The Diamond Age has aged the best.
cryptonector · 6 years ago
Stephenson is a great writer. He just can't write endings. Which is fine because then he just writes never-ending trilogies.
m463 · 6 years ago
I loved Neal Stephenson at first, but then around the baroque cycle his books became less interesting (to me, personal opinion).
iNate2000 · 6 years ago
"Baroque Cycle" was a real slog. Much better the second time through when I already had clues who everybody was.
ubermonkey · 6 years ago
I read this when it was current. I am now old.

Stephenson had a great sideline in really deep-dive nonfiction pieces there for a while (around the same time that Wired was experimenting with running them, in print). It was a pretty great combination.

hudibras · 6 years ago
I'm so old I bought this when it was published in paperback.

https://www.amazon.com/Beginning-was-Command-Line/dp/0380815...

Edit: Amazon informs me that I purchased it on 19 June 2000.

non-entity · 6 years ago
I always forget Amazon's been around that long.
Cbasedlifeform · 6 years ago
I bought it in paperback as well, and read and loved it immediately. I then gave it to a young programmer I met in Sapporo, who was (at the time) working with BeOS.

I have the text version (the proper one, I suppose!) on my laptop as I type.

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invalidOrTaken · 6 years ago
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Speculative economists take note: abundance is hard.

dang · 6 years ago
bookofjoe · 6 years ago
I figured a year was a decent interval...
9034725985 · 6 years ago
I think he linked it so new readers can see the older comments and get clued in to the conversation. (:

I remember reading In the beginning was the command line back in high school. I liked the comparison with cars. I'm a little sad I never got to use the BeOS that the author so much likens to a batmobile (going from memory). This article even has its own Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Beginning..._Was_the_Co...

For new readers, I'd also strongly recommend "Mother Earth Mother Board" by the same author, Neal Stephenson. In Mother Earth Mother Board, the author writes about the fiber optic cables that connect us across continents.

Original: https://www.wired.com/1996/12/ffglass/

Previously discussed https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15635028

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8242682

dang · 6 years ago
Yes, reposts are ok after about a year: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
bookofjoe · 6 years ago
P.S. Wonderful New Yorker piece. I'll be surprised if you don't get some serious job offers from pretty high-class sites as a result.
wazoox · 6 years ago
Care to share a link? Everyone likes a good NYorker piece :)
sandymcmurray · 6 years ago
I loved this essay, and own a paperback copy. I also loved his novels Zodiac, REAMDE (a fast, fun read), and Anathem, which was a tough read at first, but I ended up loving it. (I started the first novel of his Baroque Cycle but got bogged down and never finished those ones.)
laurentl · 6 years ago
If you read Zodiac, Anathem and (part of) the Baroque Cycle I assume you’ve read his other books (Cryptonomicon, Diamond Age, Snowcrash...). If not, lucky you!

I discovered Stephenson with Anathem and I was hooked. This book doesn’t get a lot of love it seems, maybe because it’s not Stephenson's usual cyberpunk / near future sci-fi (and maybe because of all the made-up words and history—there’s even an xkcd comic about it). But (SPOILERS) you gotta admire a book that starts like The Name of the Rose and finishes in a nuke-propelled starship.

Aardwolf · 6 years ago
In the very beginning, there were light bulbs and wiring panels...
Insanity · 6 years ago
ai_ja_nai · 6 years ago
splendid reading, an enlightening essay about society and operating systems as a mediated experience methaphore
riazrizvi · 6 years ago
Gates worked as a programmer in high school, so he was aware that the practice of selling software was not new. IBM was a long standing company by that point that made money writing software for businesses. The first example of a person making money from machine instructions was Jaquard (1804) who encoded his instructions on punch cards and fed them into weaving machines to create pretty patterns. So graphics programmers came first.
kragen · 6 years ago
IBM didn't sell software until the consent decree forced them to, and Jacquard cards (or dobby patterns for that matter) are uncompressed graphics files, not programs to generate graphics algorithmically. Many machines in the 1950s used Williams-tube memory and drove additional visible CRTs from the signals, so every program was a graphics program. But that was a century after Lovelace.

Jacquard and dobby patterns were generally created by employees of the loom owner.

iNate2000 · 6 years ago
But didn't IBM (and Jaquard as well) include the software with the sale of the hardware to run it?